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		<title>By: Hulka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hulka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 16:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that Adam LaRoche has taken $5m/1yr from the Diamondbacks, the question must be asked: Was he unwilling to accept the same offer from the Giants after turning down their insane multiyear offer, or were the Giants unable to offer it to him after throwing money at DeRosa and Huff? Seems like bad strategy on everyone&#039;s part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that Adam LaRoche has taken $5m/1yr from the Diamondbacks, the question must be asked: Was he unwilling to accept the same offer from the Giants after turning down their insane multiyear offer, or were the Giants unable to offer it to him after throwing money at DeRosa and Huff? Seems like bad strategy on everyone&#8217;s part.</p>
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		<title>By: henrylow</title>
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		<dc:creator>henrylow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 06:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a fact: if you want your website to make you money, generate leads or get subscribers you have to advertise in order to drive traffic to it. Of course this is true for any business, but it is absolutely essential for online business.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a fact: if you want your website to make you money, generate leads or get subscribers you have to advertise in order to drive traffic to it. Of course this is true for any business, but it is absolutely essential for online business.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.onlineuniversalwork.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.onlineuniversalwork.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 08:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, I hadn&#039;t.  Thanks for the hat tip.  

It&#039;s still really cool to see that the big-time guys still read my site, even though I criticize them all the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I hadn&#8217;t.  Thanks for the hat tip.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s still really cool to see that the big-time guys still read my site, even though I criticize them all the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 06:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, did you see that Rob Neyer linked to your blog in his &quot;Monday Mendozas&quot;?

I confess I thought you were too hard on Sabean for signing DeRosa, but the Huff signing is just so depressing that I guess you were right all along. I think B has this one exactly right: what dos Huff offer that Ishikawa doesn&#039;t, except 7 more years of age, and worse defense, and a higher salary? There&#039;s just something about a 33-year-old mediocrity than Sabean can&#039;t resist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, did you see that Rob Neyer linked to your blog in his &#8220;Monday Mendozas&#8221;?</p>
<p>I confess I thought you were too hard on Sabean for signing DeRosa, but the Huff signing is just so depressing that I guess you were right all along. I think B has this one exactly right: what dos Huff offer that Ishikawa doesn&#8217;t, except 7 more years of age, and worse defense, and a higher salary? There&#8217;s just something about a 33-year-old mediocrity than Sabean can&#8217;t resist.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 05:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Sabean&#039;s great. Of course, I&#039;m a Dodger fan...   :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Sabean&#8217;s great. Of course, I&#8217;m a Dodger fan&#8230;   <img src='http://www.onlybaseballmatters.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 04:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Brian and the Beanstalk&lt;/b&gt;

Who is going to be the Giants catcher?  Who is going to be the Giants number 5 starter?  
Did Brian forget his shopping list?
  
So far this off season reminds me of the beginning of the fairytale &lt;i&gt;Jack and the Beanstalk&lt;/i&gt;, where Jack goes to the market to sell the cow and comes back with a handful of beans.

The Giants don&#039;t need another utility player.  The Giants don&#039;t need another infielder. They certainly don&#039;t need to spend money on additional infielders, particularly when those infielders are old and hideously average in every way.   
It seems like every time I read the news Sabean is signing another over the hill infielder.  

What about a catcher?  Who is going to be on the receiving end of this four man rotation?  Oh, yeah, and what about another starter?  Does Sabean think the young arms are going to go a full season with 20% less rest?  These are the pressing questions.  These are the team&#039;s real needs.

Jack&#039;s mom was pretty pissed off when he came home with a handful of beans.  She threw the beans out the window and called Jack a fool.  The rest of the story turned out rather well, but that&#039;s what makes it a fairytale; something about a castle in the sky and a goose that lays golden eggs.  I really don&#039;t see that as a likely scenario at Third and King.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Brian and the Beanstalk</b></p>
<p>Who is going to be the Giants catcher?  Who is going to be the Giants number 5 starter?<br />
Did Brian forget his shopping list?</p>
<p>So far this off season reminds me of the beginning of the fairytale <i>Jack and the Beanstalk</i>, where Jack goes to the market to sell the cow and comes back with a handful of beans.</p>
<p>The Giants don&#8217;t need another utility player.  The Giants don&#8217;t need another infielder. They certainly don&#8217;t need to spend money on additional infielders, particularly when those infielders are old and hideously average in every way.<br />
It seems like every time I read the news Sabean is signing another over the hill infielder.  </p>
<p>What about a catcher?  Who is going to be on the receiving end of this four man rotation?  Oh, yeah, and what about another starter?  Does Sabean think the young arms are going to go a full season with 20% less rest?  These are the pressing questions.  These are the team&#8217;s real needs.</p>
<p>Jack&#8217;s mom was pretty pissed off when he came home with a handful of beans.  She threw the beans out the window and called Jack a fool.  The rest of the story turned out rather well, but that&#8217;s what makes it a fairytale; something about a castle in the sky and a goose that lays golden eggs.  I really don&#8217;t see that as a likely scenario at Third and King.</p>
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		<title>By: ScottS</title>
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		<dc:creator>ScottS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 00:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chip,

Took a three month hiatus from OBM. Needed the break....and baseball is in the blood again.

Great post. All good points...and well documented.

DeRosa and Huff are marginal additions at best...and are just typical moves bu &quot;The Idiot&quot;. Why should anyone be surprised or expect different....two old utility journeyman. Nice. Doing nothing and standing pat...would&#039;ve been better. At least give the kids a year to develop.

I do like bringing Uribe back...and think he adds value.

Somehow, DeRosa nad Huff remind me of Garko. Old slow white guys. Perfect Sabean players.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chip,</p>
<p>Took a three month hiatus from OBM. Needed the break&#8230;.and baseball is in the blood again.</p>
<p>Great post. All good points&#8230;and well documented.</p>
<p>DeRosa and Huff are marginal additions at best&#8230;and are just typical moves bu &#8220;The Idiot&#8221;. Why should anyone be surprised or expect different&#8230;.two old utility journeyman. Nice. Doing nothing and standing pat&#8230;would&#8217;ve been better. At least give the kids a year to develop.</p>
<p>I do like bringing Uribe back&#8230;and think he adds value.</p>
<p>Somehow, DeRosa nad Huff remind me of Garko. Old slow white guys. Perfect Sabean players.</p>
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		<title>By: +mia</title>
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		<dc:creator>+mia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 20:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;...his batted-ball profile didn’t change, and his strikeout rate went up. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;

And you guys thought I was kidding when I wrote &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.onlybaseballmatters.com/archives/2010/01/06/goodbye/#comment-34858&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;By being more aggressive with opposing pitchers who lack command, the Giants look to improve their contact by aggressively enlarging the strike zone. The theory being that the fewer pitches that opposing pitchers throw, the lesser the opportunity for opposing pitchers to discern holes in their swings. This is an excellent example of reverse psychology; one of Sabean’s many new innovations in the new and improved “Giants Way”.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The Intercontinental Ringling Brothers and Barnum Bailey Railroad is now complete.  Washington DC.,  Pittsburgh,  Houston,  Kansas City, San Francisco.

When the going gets tough, the tough spend even more stupidly.  Brian Sabean must have a secret desire to be a U.S. Senator.  Never has so little been accomplished, by so few with so much of others money.  With possibly the exception of Congress.</description>
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<blockquote>&#8230;his batted-ball profile didn’t change, and his strikeout rate went up. </p></blockquote>
<p></strong></p>
<p>And you guys thought I was kidding when I wrote <a href="http://www.onlybaseballmatters.com/archives/2010/01/06/goodbye/#comment-34858" rel="nofollow">this</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>By being more aggressive with opposing pitchers who lack command, the Giants look to improve their contact by aggressively enlarging the strike zone. The theory being that the fewer pitches that opposing pitchers throw, the lesser the opportunity for opposing pitchers to discern holes in their swings. This is an excellent example of reverse psychology; one of Sabean’s many new innovations in the new and improved “Giants Way”.</p></blockquote>
<p>The Intercontinental Ringling Brothers and Barnum Bailey Railroad is now complete.  Washington DC.,  Pittsburgh,  Houston,  Kansas City, San Francisco.</p>
<p>When the going gets tough, the tough spend even more stupidly.  Brian Sabean must have a secret desire to be a U.S. Senator.  Never has so little been accomplished, by so few with so much of others money.  With possibly the exception of Congress.</p>
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		<title>By: Blair Conrad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blair Conrad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 19:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Disappointingly, this sounds correct. I will hope for better. Hope&#039;s good right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Disappointingly, this sounds correct. I will hope for better. Hope&#8217;s good right?</p>
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		<title>By: +mia</title>
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		<dc:creator>+mia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 19:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the context we would all think is conducive to winning you are right. 100% right.  But that way, in the view of the ptb, entails risk.  Risk in failure without name recognition in the context of &quot;competing&quot; but not trying to actually win.  Huff will be marketed along with Rowand and now DeRosa and Sanchez as even more gamers, more gritty, more small ball, more blah blah blah shoring up the offense.

Folks that don&#039;t pay attention to the context of Giants transactions, which is the majority of folks that pay their way into the park, probably see the addition of Huff, the DeRosa signing, the Sanchez signing, a &quot;healthy&quot; Renteria etc as a bolster to the Giants offense over last year and since the Giants won 88 games last year, these changes will garner the Giants 95 wins easy.  

And thats the marketing mantra that the tools in the media will eventually spin.  After all the Dodgers owners are getting divorced so thats good for at least 15 additional losses they will incur. Manny got busted for peds and his performance was sub-par after the suspension, and they lost two key guys in the rotation so thats worth another  15 losses.  Yup. The Dodgers will be lucky to win 65 games next year.

The Rockies?  Well, they&#039;re just fucking lucky because of that bullshit arena-baseball park and they cheat with the baseballs so the baseball gods are going to get them good this year for sure.  Jim Tracy sucks as a manager and they were highly motivated to prove Clint Hurdle was a douchebag, so they tried real real hard and probably won&#039;t try as hard this year as a result. Also, tew they won&#039;t have Torrealba anymore so thats at least 35 more losses for the Rockies, so they won&#039;t be any good either.

And the Padres and Dbacks are so horrible they&#039;re not even worth talking about.

The Giants will have the division clinched by the All-Star Break this year for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the context we would all think is conducive to winning you are right. 100% right.  But that way, in the view of the ptb, entails risk.  Risk in failure without name recognition in the context of &#8220;competing&#8221; but not trying to actually win.  Huff will be marketed along with Rowand and now DeRosa and Sanchez as even more gamers, more gritty, more small ball, more blah blah blah shoring up the offense.</p>
<p>Folks that don&#8217;t pay attention to the context of Giants transactions, which is the majority of folks that pay their way into the park, probably see the addition of Huff, the DeRosa signing, the Sanchez signing, a &#8220;healthy&#8221; Renteria etc as a bolster to the Giants offense over last year and since the Giants won 88 games last year, these changes will garner the Giants 95 wins easy.  </p>
<p>And thats the marketing mantra that the tools in the media will eventually spin.  After all the Dodgers owners are getting divorced so thats good for at least 15 additional losses they will incur. Manny got busted for peds and his performance was sub-par after the suspension, and they lost two key guys in the rotation so thats worth another  15 losses.  Yup. The Dodgers will be lucky to win 65 games next year.</p>
<p>The Rockies?  Well, they&#8217;re just fucking lucky because of that bullshit arena-baseball park and they cheat with the baseballs so the baseball gods are going to get them good this year for sure.  Jim Tracy sucks as a manager and they were highly motivated to prove Clint Hurdle was a douchebag, so they tried real real hard and probably won&#8217;t try as hard this year as a result. Also, tew they won&#8217;t have Torrealba anymore so thats at least 35 more losses for the Rockies, so they won&#8217;t be any good either.</p>
<p>And the Padres and Dbacks are so horrible they&#8217;re not even worth talking about.</p>
<p>The Giants will have the division clinched by the All-Star Break this year for sure.</p>
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