Comments on: …. Repeater

By: +mia

+mia — Sun, 20 Dec 2009 15:13:11 +0000

I have seen some of Posey’s numbers. And I have seen 3 or 4 abs. I have yet to see anything remotely indicating that he is anything other than a nice kid that got conned out of his natural infielders position and got paid a lot of money to do it. So far, the Giants have physically beaten him to a pulp. For what purpose I don’t know. The only time he got a breather is when Sabean used him to light a fire under Molina’s ass in September to sit on the bench and draw dirty looks from Bruce Almighty.

Shit, they’ve had him playing winter ball, fall ball, spring and summer and just about every goddamned stupid venue short of the Amazon Rain Forest League. He simply is not, and has not been hitting the ball for several months now. Which makes him the typical Sabean free-agent prototype “must-have” acquistion. Too bad he’ll have to wait 13 years to qualify for savvy, gritty, vet status.

As for the projected 2010 lineup? Uhm. Really now. Who the fuck gives a shit. It’s going to reek. Bochy will fuck around with lineups and stupid hit and runs and mumble about playing fundamentally sound and moving runners along and blah balh alba etc. It won’t matter. Sabean can’t get anybody worth a shit to come here because its a shitty organization to play for if you’re seriously interested in going to the playoffs.

Why the fuck would Nick Johnson, or anybody in their right mind play for an idiot like Bochy when they could play for the Yankees, Angels, Red Sox, etc etc etc.

By: +mia

+mia — Sun, 20 Dec 2009 15:01:27 +0000

discover nate’s and travis’ ceilings

And might as well throw Lewis into that construct.

I have to disagree with you about Frandsen though. Frankly, I don’t see how he put up the numbers he did in AAA. Just from watching him, he proves the adage that MLB is fast, fast fast. So fast that when a guy like him, as much success as he had in the minors just doesn’t quite have the hand, foot speed and hand-eye coordination to really compete against the best of the best.

Now having said that, the Giants would have been better off as you suggest going with Frandsen, Ishikawa, Lewis, and Sheirholtz through an entire season.

Frandsen and Lewis, like Raj Davis last year, should be more successful with the right organization. Probably in the AL. The A’s are pretty good at reclamation projects…and coaching baseball skills is one of the few organizational strengths they have. If I had a kid and had my druthers, I would sure as hell rather see him in the A’s minor system than the Giants.

Sabean has zero patience with young players. Thats what makes the Giants just a fucked up team to follow. They don’t even go through rebuilding years trying out new kids. They just keep overpaying useless piles of mediocre shit that is sometimes better than the mediocre home-growns and they continue to go in circles chasing their tales.

So far the Giants have wasted 3 seasons of Lincecum/Cain, and are about to waste a fourth. So far, the only team in the NL West doing anything are the Diamondbacks. They had a shitload of bad luck last year as much as the Giants had a lot of good luck. The Dodgers are kind of fucked with the circus act that is the MaCourts, and the divorce is playing havoc with Colleti’s ability to negotiate.

Somebody somewhere is rumoring that the settlement of the Burns estate is also playing havoc with the Giants as well as the estate is the biggest shareholder and the estate beneficiaries want to cash out.

Oh well.

By: Uncle Joe Mccarthy

Uncle Joe Mccarthy — Sun, 20 Dec 2009 10:24:50 +0000

+mia,

had last season been a true rebuilding season, we may have seen some of the younger kids come into their own

wouldve been nice to really discover nate’s and travis’ ceilings

and i wish people wouldnt be so hard on frandsen

but think about how you would feel (and perform) if you had blown out your achilles after you had made the squad (and your manager already knew you were having foot probs and shouldve rested you the rest of st) worked your way back to play, played fairly well at the end of the season…only to be shipped back to fresno for the 09 season

i dont think kfran will be with the org to start 2010, unless sabean wishes to make a point by punishing the kid and keeping him in fresno

he either gets outrighted or is part of some package

and im sorry….anything is an upgrade to franchez

oh, and garko is gone…non tendered….done with the org….another wasted late season trade

with pitching still a premium in this league, does anyone not think a package of sanchez, barnes and some other milb player, couldve brought one or two good bats?

By: Robert

Robert — Sun, 20 Dec 2009 02:04:29 +0000

It’s possible that we will be seeing a lot more of the younger players this coming season, and that isn’t such a bad thing when the alternative is Sabean signing veterans without any upside. I’m not counting on it, mind you, because since when has Sabean not hired veterans to block the young player’s progress?

+mia: I have taken the liberty of marking up your list. Go ahead and laugh – that hallow, ghastly, frightening laugh.

c. Molina upgrade: —————————none——————–Holm/Whiteside/Posey ?
1b Ishikawa/Garko upgrade:—————-none—————–Ishikawa/Sandoval ?
2b Sanchez: upgrade————————-none——————-Burris/Uggla ?
3b Sandoval: actual major league player—do not disturb—Sanchez/Sandoval ?
ss Renteria:upgrade————————–none——————–Burris/Frandsen ?
lf Velez: upgrade:—————————-none———————Velez/Torres ?
cf Rowand:upgrade—————————none———————Velez/Rowand ?
rf Winn: upgrade——————————none———————Schierholtz ?

Ladies and Gentlemen, Your 2010 San Francisco Giants.
Do you think they will put a third commentator in the booth next season? Krukow might not be able to blow all that smoke by himself, and I think Kuiper might just hang himself.

By: Robert

Robert — Sun, 20 Dec 2009 01:08:23 +0000

Johnny Damon may be cut loose, although the Yankees would like to keep him. He is a Boras client, so he will be overpriced in addition to being the wrong guy for the Giants. The Red Sox are signing Lackey to a large long term contract so they are probably out of the running for Holliday, who is being hotly pursued by the Orioles (reported 8 years for $16M per) and the Cardinals where he will probably wind up. Jason Bay has said he doesn’t want to play in San Francisco and is being targeted by the Angles and the Mets, who have more money than the Giants. Dan Uggla’s a second baseman, and the Giants have got one of those already, but I wouldn’t put it past Sabean to try Sanchez out at third. There’s a rumor that the Giants may be interested in [White Sox cast off] Scott Podsednik (huh?) who is old and mediocre enough to draw Sabean’s attention. There’s also speculation that Sue Burns’ death is wreaking legal havoc with the Giants’ financial situation.
The Giants have said they want to hold payroll to the low $90 millions, and with arbitration still ahead they are making no moves other than letting Molina, Penny and Garko walk. While almost any acquisition would improve their abysmal hitting they are looking at a truly crappy free agent field with no budget and a strategy of wait and see. Until the arbitration is completed I don’t think the Giants will do anything at all. Is Whiteside still available? He’s looking pretty good just about now.

By: +mia

+mia — Sun, 20 Dec 2009 00:37:45 +0000

Later Bro

Laughing all through the interview with this poor guy. I mean, you really have to give him credit for trying at least. But holy shit. For someone whose native language is English, he is about as inarticulate a clod as I’ve ever heard. He’s so bad, I wonder if he’s just putting us all on. Nobody that age, in the position he has been in for as long as he has, can be that much of a complete nincompoop.

If it wasn’t for MLB, I don’t think he could support himself. He would probably be sent back for remedial training in pizza delivery etiquette. But you have to ask yourself, other than a couple of pitchers and Sandoval, there isn’t a whole lot for somebody like a LaRussa, Torre, Sciosia, Madden, Francona, or Former A’s Bench Coach and first year manager in Seattle, Don Wakamatsu, to work with.

I mean really. Who is going to do anything with an offensive juggernaut like the Giants. At least, after 5 years of stinking up things offensively and with some blue chip power hitters and a couple of high on base percentage guys becoming available, Brian Sabean has this new improved lineup.

I’ve listed a typical starting line-up from last year followed by the new improved player that Sabean has penciled in to upgrade the position.

2000
c. Molina upgrade: —————————none
1b Ishikawa/Garko upgrade:—————-none
2b Sanchez: upgrade————————-none
3b Sandoval: actual major league player—do not disturb
ss Renteria:upgrade————————–none
lf Velez: upgrade:—————————-none
cf Rowand:upgrade—————————none
rf Winn: upgrade——————————none

Its good to see Sabean finally see the light after 6 years away from the playoffs with little to zero offense. Its good to see him bring along all those blue chip free agents, latin american kiddies who shoot people in the face, and top flight position player draft choice standouts like Todd Linden, Lance Niekro, Dan Ortmeir, Tony Torcato, Kevin Frandsen, Damon Minor. Just awesome.

But at least they didn’t waste any money on Penny.

By: Mark

Mark — Sat, 19 Dec 2009 23:55:00 +0000

I disagree a little here. Sure it’s the players that will have an impact, but the managers make decisions and should make the decisions that have the smallest percentage of an impact on the game. As Al Pacino said in a terrific quote of an otherwise average movie “cause that’s gonna make the f—– difference between winning and losing.” Four run games get blown every year and more than one run games these can be blown by managers who don’t stay on their players and let their guards down.

By: John

John — Sat, 19 Dec 2009 21:48:56 +0000

I saw that the yanks had landed Johnson. I know he’s a bit old and slow, but jeez, the yanks got him for $5.5 million, one year. That’s a hell of a deal. I wouldn’t bitch too much about that if the Giants had landed him for that much.

Anyway, who’s left? Holliday and Bay and not much else. So, we need our exalted GM to either make a trade, or jump off a bridge.

By: Uncle Joe Mccarthy

Uncle Joe Mccarthy — Sat, 19 Dec 2009 04:42:48 +0000

while you all were sleeping….yankees signed nick johnson

thank god

and sabean is the king of idiot gms…but the seattle gm is really trying to suplant him

heard the guy talking about the 3 way deal that brought them lee….he really thinks lee is gonna love playing in seattle so much that they will get a home town discount when he goes fa at the end of the season….and not only that, but lee will draw other fa like flies….never mind he gave up the farm for the deal, and the phillies are gonna look real good with halliday there for at least the next 3 years

By: Robert

Robert — Fri, 18 Dec 2009 15:27:00 +0000

As long as we are chasing Brian Sabean's mental butterflies I offer this observation to add to your killing jar: Sabean is scared of dealing with Scott Boras. And with good reason. Sabean was made the laughing stock of major league GMs by Boras when he signed Zito and Sabean hasn't signed one of Boras' clients since. I think this fits in with John's analysis of Sabean: “[Sabean] looks at something a player has done, even if it’s only once, and he believes that that is what the player can do, or actually is.” In Sabean's world view, Scott Boras is the guy that put the biggest blot on his professional record, and he is the guy who not only can, but will, do it again if given the chance. Recently Sabean has taken some public verbal pot shots at Boras, which I think have a decidedly petulant tone.

“We’re not going to be involved with people that are going to use us on the way to somewhere else. If there’s legitimate mutual interest, we’ll have meaningful talks. If it’s just going to be a stalking horse situation, we’re not going to spend the time.”

and

"Well, you know, I never knew that we needed any more offense. I'm shocked to hear I'm the last to know. Scott's a very smart man. He has enough money to buy a club. Maybe that's the route he should go."

It doesn't sound much to me like a guy who is getting ready to sit down at the bargaining table. So if you are looking at Giants free agents prospects I'd cross Scott Boras' clients off of your Christmas list. Sabean has.