By the way. Its been several days since I told Sabean’s idiot twin to go fuck himself

So.

Go Fuck Yourself

I’m just hoping Sabean can get some decent deals done.

What in the world would cause you to have any kind of reasonable hope that will happen?

The Sanchez signing? Which came on the heels of multiyear contracts to:

Edgar Renteria, Barry Zito, Aaron Rowand, Dave Roberts, Randy Winn?.

The failure to keep Penny?

His stated desire to re-sign Walk-off retread Bobby Howry?

His public trashing of Posey’s baseball skills and maturityl?

His antagonism when questioned why he did not offer Molina arbitration in order to get a sandwich pick because he didn’t “want to face another arbitration case?”

Are you serious when you say you “hope” Sabean makes some good signings? What the fuck? Do you hope the Mullahs, Taliban, Hezbollahs, Ayatollahs, and all the world’s snake charmers come to their senses and decide to have a fan appreciation night at Payphone Park too? You’re kidding right?

I’m sure we can’t really afford Bay or Holliday with Lincecum due for a huge raise and Rowand, Renteria and Zito’s contracts.

Well, actually, yes they can. They had operating revenues of $196 million in 2008 according to Forbes. With a payroll of $82 Million in 2009 with about the same projected revenue thats a hell of a lot of money. Thats a done of fucking difference to explain away as a reason to go all cheapskate on the folks buying tickets.

The Comcast cable money alone is a little over $30 million in 2007 (ranked sixth in Regional Sports Networks behind the Yankees, Mets, Angels , Tigers, and Dodgers. About a million less than the Dodgers and 2 million less than the Angels). That $30 Million by the way, comes on the back of 1.5 million Bay Area Cable TV subscribers, so even those of us who don’t want to give those greedy fucks a nickel still end up getting pick-pocketed by the shylocks who run the Giants.

And putting all of that aside, who the fuck was responsible for the reprehensible contracts of Zito, Renteria, and Rowand in the first place? The same idiot that as John cited above, threw multi-year millions at the feet of Snow, Benard, Reuter, and Alfonzo. What in the fuck makes anybody think that this 15 year pattern of signing players based on Fleer baseball cards is going to change, given that Mr. Toad was just given a 3 year deal by Mr. ABA and Microsoft centerfold Orville Redenbacher?

And the reason Lincecum is reluctant to sign a multi-year contract and is leaning towards the biggest arbitration award in history is because maybe, just fucking possibly, he might not want to waste the BEST FUCKING PITCHING AND EARNING YEARS OF HIS LIFE surrounded by “second tier” position players who couldn’t score runs if they hit a ball off a tee…on a little league diamond…against a Challenger League team…in a zero-gravity environment…with 100 foot fences…with 3 defenders in the field.

That it may even be possible that Lincecum might not want to spend his twenties being bossed around by a management team that is more interested in real estate, souvenir sales, and cable tv revenue with a lukewarm commitment to being competitive. Or do you think, he might instead want to pitch for a team surrounded by “first tier” players who are not committed to being competitive, but are committed to winning a World Series?

Guys like you need to stop swallowing the swill from guys from the Merc, Chronicle, ESPN, Comcast, KNBR and all the rest of the cheerleaders, who are nothing more than pimps for the Giants front office. Guys who continually spew Management’s spin on everything.

The sad case is that the ownership groups in San Francisco are not held to high standards of competitiveness by mainstream media. Your post is simply a reflection of that

Trade your Number 2 prospect for a rent-a-DL second baseman, who managed to give you all of 105 at bats with a sub-700 OPS. Then cover it up with a 2 year contract for $12 Million. The second part of that deadline horseshit consisted of sending another of your better pitching prospects in order for him to ride pine. Now you’re debating whether to non-tender him or not.

Top it all off by failing to sign the only starting pitcher to carry this team on his back during the month of September and let him get away to? A small market team, that manages to go to the playoffs just about every fucking year.

The St. Louis Cardinals and right-handed pitcher Brad Penny have agreed to a deal, sources told ESPN The Magazine’s Buster Olney.

Penny’s one-year contract is worth $7.5 million and contains $1.5 million in performance bonuses, according to sources. The deal is pending a physical, which will likely be done on Tuesday.

According to Skipper Grumby, he offered Penny “a fair contract” but was rebuffed by Penny’s agent. The skipper is blaming his failure to sign Penny on the agent, since in old broken capillary nose’s opinion, the Giants made a comparable offer to the Cardinals.

Well. No he didn’t. Not even close. Even if the money was similar. And it had nothing to do with the park. It had to do with playing for a bunch of merchandise marketers and real-estate developers who are running a waterfront amusement park. Given that the money was similar, Penny’s agent recommended correctly that Mr. Penny take the opportunity to pitch for a contender and use the incentive laden contract to command an even better contract the following year…and give himself a genuine shot at the World Series. Not “competing” with “second tier” players for third place in the NL West.

Almost daily, Sabean exposes by his words, actions and sloppy explanations, the fraud that is the San Francisco Baseball Company.

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And a very good example of why I feel the way about the Hall of Fame the way I do.

But at least the indomitable Tom Seaver, my favorite pitcher of all-time, stood up and called a spade a plantation owner.

A separate 12-person committee that reviewed 10 executives didn’t elect anyone. John Fetzer, who owned the Detroit Tigers from 1956 to ‘83, got eight votes and fell one vote short.

The 92-year-old Miller, who became head of the players’ association in 1966 and built the union into a powerful force, drew seven votes. Jacob Ruppert, who owned the Yankees when they acquired Babe Ruth, also drew seven.

“I agree with the process, but I don’t agree with the result regarding Marvin,” Hall of Fame pitcher Tom Seaver told ESPN.com’s Jerry Crasnick. Seaver is a member of the 12-man panel voting for executives and officials and voted for Miller.

“I think we probably have to have a couple more players [on the panel] to have a balance in that meeting,” Seaver said. “That’s the thing I’m going to suggest. This is not about your feeling on Marvin Miller. This is about the history of the game of baseball. It’s a no-brainer for me.”

Miller came aboard the MLBPA at a time when players had no labor rights and the minimum salary was $6,000. He helped do away with the reserve clause and saw the advent of the collective bargaining agreement in 1968 and then free agency.

With each passing failure to gain election to the Hall of Fame, Miller urged the Veterans Committee to remove his name from the ballot two years ago.

“I said it in the meeting,” Seaver told Crasnick. “He is on a par with Babe Ruth and Jackie Robinson in terms of his impact on the game of baseball. He is right there.”

When Tom Seaver stands up in a meeting that is stacked with owners and tells those weasels that Marvin Miller is on a par with Babe Ruth and Jackie Robinson, and 5 of those cretins still refuse to vote for Marvin Miller, than you can understand why folks like me have so little use for the owners and their mouthpieces.

+mia

In addition to the few teams that are ‘gaming’ the system and pocketing huge profits the owners as a group are using the bad economy as an excuse to keep payroll down or to actually cut payroll, when MLB is taking in record high revenues. They are obviously not fooling Scott Boras and they are not fooling the MLBPA. I can’t remember the owners ever doing anything but complain about how they were losing money; but at least in the past they had a modicum of plausibility. Now they are exposed as blatant liars. It would be difficult to prove illegal collusion is taking place, but something smells rotten.

The failure to offer Bonds work had more than a whiff of unified action about it, and the cutting of payrolls in this time of plenty is an eye watering blast. If the owners aren’t abusing their anti-trust exemption they are cutting it mighty close. With “ex-owner” used car salesman Bud “For the Good of Baseball” Selig running the show, who is watching the watchers? A little congressional oversight is in order.

With their other investments tanking the owners look like they’re taking profits out of baseball at a rate that would make a loan shark blush. At the very least there ought to be come sort of claw back clause in the revenue sharing system to rein back the worst offenders. A congressional investigation wielding the threat of contraction would be good for baseball and good for the fans. And MLB should pay the costs of the investigation. For the good of the sport of Baseball.

I think this is the 2010 theme. No more “Grit”. No more “Warrior Spirit”. No more “Giants Way”

Just this:

It also sounds like Sabean is being given very little money with which to make deals. Letting Penny, Uribe and Molina go to test the market supports this theory, as does Neukom’s stated intention to grow the team from the farm system.

Except if they were serious about spending money in the draft, they would have offered Molina arbitration as he has a two-year offer from Sabean’s idiot Latin American counterpart in NYC, Omar Minaya, and would have received a squeeze pick after the 1st round. But since that would have been somewhere between the 30th and 36th pick in the draft, it would have cost the Giants money. Money that can be used to pay down even more of the real estate down by the bridge.

Jon Heyman of SI.com says this afternoon via twitter that Mets will play the waiting game on Molina, figuring teams that need catchers, such as the Royals and Rangers, will have less money to spend

Well if you look at the numbers, both Selig’s flunky negotiator, Rob Manfred and the MLPA agree that MLB revenues are $6 billion. That averages out to $200 Million per team for 30 teams. And the average payroll in MLB is $88,000.00

Even greedy ass John Henry owner of the Red Sox and former Yankee Shareholder seems to have had enough of the current system of corporate welfare for teams like the A’s, Royals, Pirates, Marlins, Rays etc. And like Giants fans are locally, he is pissed off globally at the pocketing of the $400 million each year they are getting in revenue sharing, and is fed up.

“Change is needed and that is reflected by the fact that over a billion dollars have been paid to seven chronically uncompetitive teams, five of whom have had baseball’s highest operating profits,” Henry responded in an e-mail. “Who, except these teams, can think this is a good idea?”

About $400 million – 34 percent of each team’s net local revenue – will be distributed to small market teams this year. Most of that percentage comes from the Yankees, Red Sox, Mets, and other high-revenue teams.

If you may recall, Scott Boras’ thoughts on this:

“We’ve seen a number of teams that are just sitting back,” Boras told the Globe at the General Manager’s meetings in Chicago last month.

“We have clubs who aren’t successful getting $80 million before they ever sell a ticket. The question is always going to be in the end, what are they doing with that money? For most of them, they’re paying off their debt to purchase the franchise. So they become owners, debt-free but they have not done a lot to contribute to the success of the game.

Those are the things as an industry, certainly the fans have to look at it and realize that kind of revenue is available.

The other part of it is I think we’ve proven time and time again that investment in players produces revenue streams and success points for franchises. Even in an economy where many businesses are struggling in our industry, as I said last year, we’ve been able to keep revenues at a record level.”

Stop! Thief!

In spite of all of this, 14 of the 30. Almost half of all Major League teams, cut salaries between 2008 and 2009. Here’s the simple math.

Average Revenue $200 Million
Average Team Pay $ 88 Million

That’s some lot of overhead if you ask me. About 56 percent. Dudes and Doodettes. If you tried to run a real business with 56 percent overhead, like this, the IRS, the SEC, the Justice Dept. the Department of Labor not to mention state and local authorities would be sweating you out on a daily basis and making your ass so miserable, you wouldn’t have time to do any business.

Anybody that thinks this outfit is serious about winning a championship, should just shoot themselves in the face multiple times with a paint gun.

Somebody told me you were a 14 year old girl. R U?

Chuck (MPLS)

your opinion: top 5 org talent (no particular order)

Jim Callis (2:54 PM)

Was kicking this around with John Manuel the other day. In no order: Rangers, Phillies, Rays, Giants, Indians.

So, does this exchange, combined with the Giants’ surprise 88-win season, create any optimism among OBM readers? No? OK, I was just checking…