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		<title>By: +mia</title>
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		<dc:creator>+mia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Double Ass Standards&lt;strong&gt;

On MLB Network&#039;s  Hot Stove the panel of Leiter, Mitch Williams, and Dan Plesac were going over the feats of NL MVP, unanimous winner Albert Pujols.  They spent a lot of time comparing him and contrasting him to other MVP winners To other First Basemen, and generally other power hitters over the years.  

There were plenty of references and discussions about Lou Gehrig, Henry Aaron, Joe Dimaggio, Yogi Berra, Ty Cobb, Stan Musial, Robin Yount  Hank Greenberg as winners of multiple MVP awards, as well as other semi-forgettable players.

The show was essentially devoted to discussions of MVP&#039;s past and present. But of course, the MLB Network being Bud Selig&#039;s personal propaganda network, said nary a word about the player with more than twice as many MVPs as anybody in the history of the game--Barry Bonds.  Seven MVPs.  The next highest total?

Albert Pujols. Three. Never mind that he was skinnier than Bonds when he came up and his hat size has grown and he is bulked up by at least 40 pounds since he broke in.  Albert Pujols is the new Selig designee as the savior of baseball.  At least for the time being.

Here&#039;s another piece of trivia for the scatterbrained worshippers of statistical milestones.  To show you how petty the powers that be are. Bonds was blackballed before the 2008 season no doubt. Any objective look at his 2007 numbers would tell you that.

But here&#039;s the chickenshit part.  He finished 65 hits short of 3000 and 4 RBIs short of 2000.  And Selig and the rest of the droopy-drawer crowd deliberately went out of their way to prevent Bonds from achieving those milestones by blackballing him.  

And the Giants front office never said a word.  

And not  a word of this was raised in MSM by anybody. 

Fuck the local media hacks who cover the Giants.  The same hacks who left Lincecum off the Cy Young.  The same hacks who echo every word of every Giants press release as if it was the gospel, the koran and the commandments all rolled into one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Double Ass Standards</strong><strong></p>
<p>On MLB Network&#8217;s  Hot Stove the panel of Leiter, Mitch Williams, and Dan Plesac were going over the feats of NL MVP, unanimous winner Albert Pujols.  They spent a lot of time comparing him and contrasting him to other MVP winners To other First Basemen, and generally other power hitters over the years.  </p>
<p>There were plenty of references and discussions about Lou Gehrig, Henry Aaron, Joe Dimaggio, Yogi Berra, Ty Cobb, Stan Musial, Robin Yount  Hank Greenberg as winners of multiple MVP awards, as well as other semi-forgettable players.</p>
<p>The show was essentially devoted to discussions of MVP&#8217;s past and present. But of course, the MLB Network being Bud Selig&#8217;s personal propaganda network, said nary a word about the player with more than twice as many MVPs as anybody in the history of the game&#8211;Barry Bonds.  Seven MVPs.  The next highest total?</p>
<p>Albert Pujols. Three. Never mind that he was skinnier than Bonds when he came up and his hat size has grown and he is bulked up by at least 40 pounds since he broke in.  Albert Pujols is the new Selig designee as the savior of baseball.  At least for the time being.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s another piece of trivia for the scatterbrained worshippers of statistical milestones.  To show you how petty the powers that be are. Bonds was blackballed before the 2008 season no doubt. Any objective look at his 2007 numbers would tell you that.</p>
<p>But here&#8217;s the chickenshit part.  He finished 65 hits short of 3000 and 4 RBIs short of 2000.  And Selig and the rest of the droopy-drawer crowd deliberately went out of their way to prevent Bonds from achieving those milestones by blackballing him.  </p>
<p>And the Giants front office never said a word.  </p>
<p>And not  a word of this was raised in MSM by anybody. </p>
<p>Fuck the local media hacks who cover the Giants.  The same hacks who left Lincecum off the Cy Young.  The same hacks who echo every word of every Giants press release as if it was the gospel, the koran and the commandments all rolled into one.</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Congratulations to Tim Lincecum for winning his second Cy Young.&lt;/b&gt;  I would be happier if this didn&#039;t mean that the Giants are going to end up paying two pitchers a third of the team&#039;s entire payroll.

With a desperate need for a right handed power hitter to fill the gaping hole in left field Giant&#039;s GM Brian Sabean has announced that he has not even contacted the agents of either Bay or Holliday because “I don&#039;t think they would have genuine interest &lt;b&gt;based on the field they&#039;re going to be involved in.&lt;/b&gt;  Why would they?”  

Sabean is referring, of course, to the teams with deep pockets who have a legitimate chance of signing these players: the Yankees; the Mets; the Red Sox, and the Cardinals.  Teams that reinvest their profits in their players.  Teams with a legitimate commitment to winning.  Teams without an albatross named Brian Sabean hanging around their neck. 

The Giants are going to attempt to shore up their horrible offense on the cheap, a situation necessitated by the incredibly bad contracts Sabean has engineered over the last five years. 

One wonders what sort of  &lt;i&gt;bargains&lt;/i&gt; Sabean thinks he can pick up from among the second-tier and non-tendered players that would be an improvement over the current stock of second-tier players he&#039;s already signed.  The &lt;a href=&quot;http://sanfrancisco.giants.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20091120&amp;content_id=7696644&amp;vkey=news_sf&amp;fext=.jsp&amp;c_id=sf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;selection&lt;/a&gt; does not look promising. 

So congratulations to Tim, on the Cy Young, and on the huge pay increase it undoubtedly will bring, but forgive me if I don&#039;t feel like celebrating.  A team that&#039;s only worth watching every fifth day doesn&#039;t inspire much celebration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Congratulations to Tim Lincecum for winning his second Cy Young.</b>  I would be happier if this didn&#8217;t mean that the Giants are going to end up paying two pitchers a third of the team&#8217;s entire payroll.</p>
<p>With a desperate need for a right handed power hitter to fill the gaping hole in left field Giant&#8217;s GM Brian Sabean has announced that he has not even contacted the agents of either Bay or Holliday because “I don&#8217;t think they would have genuine interest <b>based on the field they&#8217;re going to be involved in.</b>  Why would they?”  </p>
<p>Sabean is referring, of course, to the teams with deep pockets who have a legitimate chance of signing these players: the Yankees; the Mets; the Red Sox, and the Cardinals.  Teams that reinvest their profits in their players.  Teams with a legitimate commitment to winning.  Teams without an albatross named Brian Sabean hanging around their neck. </p>
<p>The Giants are going to attempt to shore up their horrible offense on the cheap, a situation necessitated by the incredibly bad contracts Sabean has engineered over the last five years. </p>
<p>One wonders what sort of  <i>bargains</i> Sabean thinks he can pick up from among the second-tier and non-tendered players that would be an improvement over the current stock of second-tier players he&#8217;s already signed.  The <a href="http://sanfrancisco.giants.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20091120&amp;content_id=7696644&amp;vkey=news_sf&amp;fext=.jsp&amp;c_id=sf" rel="nofollow">selection</a> does not look promising. </p>
<p>So congratulations to Tim, on the Cy Young, and on the huge pay increase it undoubtedly will bring, but forgive me if I don&#8217;t feel like celebrating.  A team that&#8217;s only worth watching every fifth day doesn&#8217;t inspire much celebration.</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Joe Mccarthy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uncle Joe Mccarthy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>timmy is gonna get a big payday in arbitration

sabean will cover telling fans not to worry....but he is gonna be shitting bricks

sabean has already announced that he will not be going after first level fa&#039;s....that means the offense is gonna stink again, and the kids are gonna sit, while overpayed middling talent mucks it up on the field day after day

either the giants are gonna be forced to trade timmy to a true contender to get a real bat....or he is gonna get dumped for someone&#039;s entire farm system

either way...the kid is gonna be a yankee

that sabean didnt see this coming and traded 2 arms for absolute shite, instead of packaging those arms in the offseason, just provides more evidence that the ownership group is content on treading water for the next 10-20 years

what really kills me, is that in this time of ecomomic upheaval, and absolute incompetent was allowed to keep his job</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>timmy is gonna get a big payday in arbitration</p>
<p>sabean will cover telling fans not to worry&#8230;.but he is gonna be shitting bricks</p>
<p>sabean has already announced that he will not be going after first level fa&#8217;s&#8230;.that means the offense is gonna stink again, and the kids are gonna sit, while overpayed middling talent mucks it up on the field day after day</p>
<p>either the giants are gonna be forced to trade timmy to a true contender to get a real bat&#8230;.or he is gonna get dumped for someone&#8217;s entire farm system</p>
<p>either way&#8230;the kid is gonna be a yankee</p>
<p>that sabean didnt see this coming and traded 2 arms for absolute shite, instead of packaging those arms in the offseason, just provides more evidence that the ownership group is content on treading water for the next 10-20 years</p>
<p>what really kills me, is that in this time of ecomomic upheaval, and absolute incompetent was allowed to keep his job</p>
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		<title>By: +mia</title>
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		<dc:creator>+mia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You got it. Pitching for this collection of garbage I would have been doing tabs of acid, lines of coke, gallons of Rum, and finishing it all with kilos of Mendocino&#039;s finest.  And that would have been just in the pregame stretch.

People are fucking crazy if they think Lincecum is coming back to this shit.  

Look at what these assholes did for Lowry?  Thanks for coming man. Sorry we fucked your career, your body and your life, but well, fuck it man, we gots the stadium debt to pay down.

Lincecum may be young, but he&#039;s a ballplayer, and he knows shit when he smells it. And right now the Giants operation from a young player&#039;s standpoint is shit city. I look for Bochy to try and overuse the shit out of him and not give a shit one way or another if he breaks down or not. As long as these fucks can use him like a circus elephant to bring the chumps in through the turnstiles, they will wear his ass out.  

Its not going to be a fun ride.  If you think the Brewers hosed Sabathia in the short time they had him, and you thought Lincecum was overused last year, if the Giants lose in arbitration, they are going to treat Lincecum like a bad field slave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You got it. Pitching for this collection of garbage I would have been doing tabs of acid, lines of coke, gallons of Rum, and finishing it all with kilos of Mendocino&#8217;s finest.  And that would have been just in the pregame stretch.</p>
<p>People are fucking crazy if they think Lincecum is coming back to this shit.  </p>
<p>Look at what these assholes did for Lowry?  Thanks for coming man. Sorry we fucked your career, your body and your life, but well, fuck it man, we gots the stadium debt to pay down.</p>
<p>Lincecum may be young, but he&#8217;s a ballplayer, and he knows shit when he smells it. And right now the Giants operation from a young player&#8217;s standpoint is shit city. I look for Bochy to try and overuse the shit out of him and not give a shit one way or another if he breaks down or not. As long as these fucks can use him like a circus elephant to bring the chumps in through the turnstiles, they will wear his ass out.  </p>
<p>Its not going to be a fun ride.  If you think the Brewers hosed Sabathia in the short time they had him, and you thought Lincecum was overused last year, if the Giants lose in arbitration, they are going to treat Lincecum like a bad field slave.</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Joe Mccarthy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uncle Joe Mccarthy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>baggerly&#039;s analysis is weird

by the second half, giant&#039;s sp were exausted emotionally and physically...contstantly worrying that the offense would stink again, so that giving up any runs could cost a win</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>baggerly&#8217;s analysis is weird</p>
<p>by the second half, giant&#8217;s sp were exausted emotionally and physically&#8230;contstantly worrying that the offense would stink again, so that giving up any runs could cost a win</p>
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		<title>By: Mark O'Connor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark O'Connor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim was the best--he deserved the award. Carpenter, Vazquez, Haren, and Wainwright were all sensational, but Tim was better. He just buries guys out there. He makes great hitters look foolish, and even when guys get wood on the ball they barely get it to the outfield. I don&#039;t remember ever watching a guy give up so few hard-hit balls. What amazes me is that as brilliant as he was last season, he was even better this season! Can&#039;t wait to see what he&#039;ll do next year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim was the best&#8211;he deserved the award. Carpenter, Vazquez, Haren, and Wainwright were all sensational, but Tim was better. He just buries guys out there. He makes great hitters look foolish, and even when guys get wood on the ball they barely get it to the outfield. I don&#8217;t remember ever watching a guy give up so few hard-hit balls. What amazes me is that as brilliant as he was last season, he was even better this season! Can&#8217;t wait to see what he&#8217;ll do next year.</p>
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		<title>By: B</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations to Timmy.  He deserved it.  Kid is a phenom out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations to Timmy.  He deserved it.  Kid is a phenom out there.</p>
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		<title>By: +mia</title>
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		<dc:creator>+mia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The irony of an ESPN egomaniac outwitting local beat scribbler Henry Shulman is poetic justice.  
(visualizes Lincecum blowing smoke rings in Shulman&#039;s face)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The irony of an ESPN egomaniac outwitting local beat scribbler Henry Shulman is poetic justice.<br />
(visualizes Lincecum blowing smoke rings in Shulman&#8217;s face)</p>
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		<title>By: +mia</title>
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		<dc:creator>+mia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well fuck that guy. He&#039;s just another fucking management shill who doesn&#039;t know his dick from a fungo bat. You want fortitude? Fuck it man. Its getting outs when you&#039;re behind in the count. That&#039;s a measurable, statistical observation. 

Did Cain pitch well from behind in the count this year?  &lt;a href=&quot;http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/splits?playerId=6202&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Decide for yourself&lt;/a&gt;  Hell, first pitch hackers had an OPS against of .800, let alone when he was behind in the count.  Thats almost 180 points higher than &lt;a href=&quot;http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/splits?playerId=28705&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Lincecum&#039;s&lt;/a&gt; .621 in virtually the same number of at bats.  So for Baggarly to just mumble some stupid shit like he did is just so much horseshit.

I swear if I didn&#039;t know better, it appears that these pukey local msm dorks were trying to beat Lincecum down in arbitration.  Almost as if they were doing Larry Sabean&#039;s bidding.

But nah. They&#039;re journalists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well fuck that guy. He&#8217;s just another fucking management shill who doesn&#8217;t know his dick from a fungo bat. You want fortitude? Fuck it man. Its getting outs when you&#8217;re behind in the count. That&#8217;s a measurable, statistical observation. </p>
<p>Did Cain pitch well from behind in the count this year?  <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/splits?playerId=6202" rel="nofollow">Decide for yourself</a>  Hell, first pitch hackers had an OPS against of .800, let alone when he was behind in the count.  Thats almost 180 points higher than <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/splits?playerId=28705" rel="nofollow">Lincecum&#8217;s</a> .621 in virtually the same number of at bats.  So for Baggarly to just mumble some stupid shit like he did is just so much horseshit.</p>
<p>I swear if I didn&#8217;t know better, it appears that these pukey local msm dorks were trying to beat Lincecum down in arbitration.  Almost as if they were doing Larry Sabean&#8217;s bidding.</p>
<p>But nah. They&#8217;re journalists.</p>
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		<title>By: Tonus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tonus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keith law had a very nice breakdown of why he voted the way he did (Lincecum, Vazquez, and Wainwright).  He&#039;s getting some heat and some support for his picks, but his reasoning is defensible (unless you reject advanced statistical metrics outright).  It&#039;s good to see a year where actual pitching performance trumped the win column, although I think we have a long way to go as yet.  Had Wainwright and/or Sabathia won 20 games, I suspect they&#039;d have both won the Cy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keith law had a very nice breakdown of why he voted the way he did (Lincecum, Vazquez, and Wainwright).  He&#8217;s getting some heat and some support for his picks, but his reasoning is defensible (unless you reject advanced statistical metrics outright).  It&#8217;s good to see a year where actual pitching performance trumped the win column, although I think we have a long way to go as yet.  Had Wainwright and/or Sabathia won 20 games, I suspect they&#8217;d have both won the Cy.</p>
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