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		<title>By: giantsrainman</title>
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		<dc:creator>giantsrainman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 02:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn.</description>
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		<title>By: +mia</title>
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		<dc:creator>+mia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 01:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You missed mentioning the two most important sample sizes in your entire meaningless, irritating, life.   Your brain and your dick.

You ignorant butt crawling sack of Nookum splooge. If you sucked Sabean&#039;s dick or pumped Baer&#039;s peter any harder your lips would qualify for disability payments. You run out of places to wipe your ass on the internet again?  Somebody made the mistake of talking to you once upon a time, and you thought it meant you actually had something worthwhile to say.  If anybody wants to know what the fuck is on that puny little piece of shit called your mind, we&#039;re all free to read sfgiantbullshit.com or brucejenkinsasstastesgood.org.  

Maybe its because your mother didn&#039;t  have any children that actually lived that makes your scribblings so incomprehensible and your intellect so bankrupt that you really consider it high recognition when you are called out for the worthless runny slimy protoplasm that runs around the net referring to itself as a black and orange idiot savant. 

Please feel free to comment more often.  It allows me to narrow the focus of my profanity, and expand upon the vulgarity of my vocabulary while expending the effort on you, a totally useless and without redeeming social value pile of humanoid refuse.

You truly are a fuckface.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You missed mentioning the two most important sample sizes in your entire meaningless, irritating, life.   Your brain and your dick.</p>
<p>You ignorant butt crawling sack of Nookum splooge. If you sucked Sabean&#8217;s dick or pumped Baer&#8217;s peter any harder your lips would qualify for disability payments. You run out of places to wipe your ass on the internet again?  Somebody made the mistake of talking to you once upon a time, and you thought it meant you actually had something worthwhile to say.  If anybody wants to know what the fuck is on that puny little piece of shit called your mind, we&#8217;re all free to read sfgiantbullshit.com or brucejenkinsasstastesgood.org.  </p>
<p>Maybe its because your mother didn&#8217;t  have any children that actually lived that makes your scribblings so incomprehensible and your intellect so bankrupt that you really consider it high recognition when you are called out for the worthless runny slimy protoplasm that runs around the net referring to itself as a black and orange idiot savant. </p>
<p>Please feel free to comment more often.  It allows me to narrow the focus of my profanity, and expand upon the vulgarity of my vocabulary while expending the effort on you, a totally useless and without redeeming social value pile of humanoid refuse.</p>
<p>You truly are a fuckface.</p>
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		<title>By: giantsrainman</title>
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		<dc:creator>giantsrainman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 00:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ever herd of small sample size?

What a blathering idiot you are!</description>
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<p>What a blathering idiot you are!</p>
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		<title>By: +mia</title>
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		<dc:creator>+mia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 20:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Felony in Progress&lt;/strong&gt;

Holy Jesus Fuck.  Is there anybody out there that has a wonderlich score higher than 4 that believes this shit as reported out by Baggs?

&lt;blockquote&gt;Bruce Bochy says Sanchez will be a great fit at the No.2 spot, or possibly third — in which case we could presume Pablo Sandoval would hit cleanup. Brian Sabean called it a “big box to check off” and said Sanchez was a targeted player because of his body of work in Pittsburgh.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Note the carefully parsed &quot;body of work in Pittsburgh&quot; and how there is no fucking reference whatsoever to Sanchez&#039; &quot;body of work in San Francisco&quot;. 

Let me sum up Freddy Fuckups &quot;body of work in San Francisco&quot;. 

A .295 On Base Percentage.  Meaning he has no fucking clue at the plate. 
A .324 Slugging Percentage.  Meaning he is a  powerless twerp.
A .619 OPS.  Meaning he is another brain dead motherfucker who swings at shit nightly with no fucking power AND no plate discipline
A .409 APP.  Meaing He managed to make an appearance in less than half the games the Giants played while he was here because he was damaged goods. And is fucking old and getting older and more broken down. 

So fuck you assholes who think this is a good trade for the purposes of winning a championship. It is beyond wishful thinking. You are a fucking willfully delusional asshole if you believe this transaction is anything other than more of the same franchise destroying behavior that has been going on for the entirety of Sabean&#039;s reign of ignorance.

This is a great transaction if you want to cheer on in ignorant bliss, a 1/2 tool scrappy player, whose contract sucks away funds to sign a truly impactful and excellent player. It makes sense if all you want to do is drink and eat overpriced beer and cheese, talk on your cellphone while working on your melanoma-inducing tan in an uncomforatble overpriced seat at an amusement park.  Its an awesome deal if all you want to do is put your hands together for a guy whose best attribute is his willingness to suck off writers from the local Bay Area Press and pat little kids on the head for 10 dollars a pop while signing useless pieces of cardborard. If thats your deal, this is a great deal by The mulletbrain.

But if you are interested in watching a team build its way towards a championship caliber organization, you are going to be disappointed for the 8th year in a row.

And if you&#039;re a Dodger fan, though you may be fretting about the McCourts domestic woes impact on your boys in blue,  at least you will know, that despite the annoying pitching of Lincecum, your domination over the Giants is not likely to be reversed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Felony in Progress</strong></p>
<p>Holy Jesus Fuck.  Is there anybody out there that has a wonderlich score higher than 4 that believes this shit as reported out by Baggs?</p>
<blockquote><p>Bruce Bochy says Sanchez will be a great fit at the No.2 spot, or possibly third — in which case we could presume Pablo Sandoval would hit cleanup. Brian Sabean called it a “big box to check off” and said Sanchez was a targeted player because of his body of work in Pittsburgh.</p></blockquote>
<p>Note the carefully parsed &#8220;body of work in Pittsburgh&#8221; and how there is no fucking reference whatsoever to Sanchez&#8217; &#8220;body of work in San Francisco&#8221;. </p>
<p>Let me sum up Freddy Fuckups &#8220;body of work in San Francisco&#8221;. </p>
<p>A .295 On Base Percentage.  Meaning he has no fucking clue at the plate.<br />
A .324 Slugging Percentage.  Meaning he is a  powerless twerp.<br />
A .619 OPS.  Meaning he is another brain dead motherfucker who swings at shit nightly with no fucking power AND no plate discipline<br />
A .409 APP.  Meaing He managed to make an appearance in less than half the games the Giants played while he was here because he was damaged goods. And is fucking old and getting older and more broken down. </p>
<p>So fuck you assholes who think this is a good trade for the purposes of winning a championship. It is beyond wishful thinking. You are a fucking willfully delusional asshole if you believe this transaction is anything other than more of the same franchise destroying behavior that has been going on for the entirety of Sabean&#8217;s reign of ignorance.</p>
<p>This is a great transaction if you want to cheer on in ignorant bliss, a 1/2 tool scrappy player, whose contract sucks away funds to sign a truly impactful and excellent player. It makes sense if all you want to do is drink and eat overpriced beer and cheese, talk on your cellphone while working on your melanoma-inducing tan in an uncomforatble overpriced seat at an amusement park.  Its an awesome deal if all you want to do is put your hands together for a guy whose best attribute is his willingness to suck off writers from the local Bay Area Press and pat little kids on the head for 10 dollars a pop while signing useless pieces of cardborard. If thats your deal, this is a great deal by The mulletbrain.</p>
<p>But if you are interested in watching a team build its way towards a championship caliber organization, you are going to be disappointed for the 8th year in a row.</p>
<p>And if you&#8217;re a Dodger fan, though you may be fretting about the McCourts domestic woes impact on your boys in blue,  at least you will know, that despite the annoying pitching of Lincecum, your domination over the Giants is not likely to be reversed.</p>
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		<title>By: jim jividen</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim jividen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I get all angry about Freddy Sanchez (2 yrs/12 million for his sub .300 OBP) here http://jimjividen.blogspot.com/2009/10/in-praise-of-mike-singletary.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get all angry about Freddy Sanchez (2 yrs/12 million for his sub .300 OBP) here <a href="http://jimjividen.blogspot.com/2009/10/in-praise-of-mike-singletary.html" rel="nofollow">http://jimjividen.blogspot.com/2009/10/in-praise-of-mike-singletary.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: +mia</title>
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		<dc:creator>+mia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>B absolutely nails the problem dead on.  The Giants do in fact spend enough to &lt;strong&gt;&quot;compete&quot;&lt;/strong&gt;.  They don&#039;t &lt;strong&gt;&quot;risk the capital&quot;&lt;/strong&gt; needed to win though.  And thats the rub that pisses me off to no end.   Your writing inadvertently reflects exactly what Larry Baer and the rest of the propaganda specialists want people to think and go no further.  

The message is:  

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;We don&#039;t need to win, we only have to have enough fan and media friendly butt plug company yes-men and young cheap pitching in our everyday lineup to keep the turnstiles turning at high rates to be successful.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;  

That is the modus operendi of the San Francisco Baseball Company.  If you look at Sabean and Bochy with that in mind, you will understand why Horlick Neukom extended those guys out for 3 more years of turnstile turning and butt-plug plugging.

Most fans fall into the trap, innocently enough, of repeating the mantra of &quot;competing&quot;, and  by repeating it often enough, folks end up eventually believing that competing is an objective itself and not the means to an end.  In all competitive sports winners think in terms of winning, not competing.  The guys that want to be &quot;competitive&quot; are the fodder for the championship seekers.  They are the backdrop against which winners demonstrate their excellence.

Winning was: &quot;Bonds took Gagne deep to win the game.&quot;  
Competing is: &quot;Rowand had a nice AB against Broxton, hit a sacrifice fly to get the Giants within a run to come up just short.&quot; 

Compete has a complete different meaning than winning.  The Giants will spend enough to compete, but not risk enough to win.  That is the Microsoft way. 

Does anybody really think that Microsoft builds and markets the best products they are capable of making?  Of course not.  They produce and sell the products that best contribute to their bottom line.  Build and sell products that are &quot;just good enough&quot; to function and keep the majority of users semi-satisfied so that even if they aren&#039;t happy, they are not disillusioned enough to stop using their products and services.  Thats capitalism in its simplest form 

&quot;Compete in the marketplace&quot; is fine if you&#039;re a business, a local industry, a charity, or contractor.  It implies that as long as you compete, you &quot;win&quot; at least a portion of the prize. But thats not winning championships.  The elves at Phone Booth Cove know this. Thats why the use the term &quot;compete&quot; over and over again.  Its designed to induce the listener to lower his expectations and still be satisfied with an inferior result.

Note how even in the Pac 10,  Cal and Stanford Coaches Tedford and Harbaugh talk about &quot;competing for the Big 10 Title&quot; while Pete Carroll in Los Angeles talks about &quot;winning a national championship&quot;.  But Cal fans and Stanford fans are happy for the most part to compete and be entertained.  Like their counterparts who patronize Garlic Fries Stadium, they are happy to see a &lt;strong&gt;&quot;competitive&quot;&lt;/strong&gt; team.  But can you imagine the reaction around the country and particularly Los Angeles if Pete Carroll and AD Mike Garret at USC talked about &quot;competing&quot; for a Big 10 Title as being the main goal every year?  

When Magowan was campaigning for the new stadium he constantly used phrases like winning a World Series, winning championships, winning their division with the expectation that they would be in the playoffs every year.  The new stadium would afford them the funds to compete against the Yankees Angels Red Sox and Dodgers for the best players in the game.  

But that was then. And this is now.

I mean really?  Who the fuck is kidding who around here?  Only fucking losers use the word &quot;compete&quot; to define their goals.  Winners talk about winning championships constantly. The Giants,  and the rest of the risk-avoidance crowd talk about competing.  And I have no qualms with that whatsoever.

What I do have a problem with however, is fucking retards lying and trying to manipulate reality with Baer-originated horseshit that the Giants are anything but a glorified extension of Microsoft marketing principals applied to the amusement park at 3rd and King.

I call bullshit on the entire Giants operation. It is a fraud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>B absolutely nails the problem dead on.  The Giants do in fact spend enough to <strong>&#8220;compete&#8221;</strong>.  They don&#8217;t <strong>&#8220;risk the capital&#8221;</strong> needed to win though.  And thats the rub that pisses me off to no end.   Your writing inadvertently reflects exactly what Larry Baer and the rest of the propaganda specialists want people to think and go no further.  </p>
<p>The message is:  </p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;We don&#8217;t need to win, we only have to have enough fan and media friendly butt plug company yes-men and young cheap pitching in our everyday lineup to keep the turnstiles turning at high rates to be successful.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>That is the modus operendi of the San Francisco Baseball Company.  If you look at Sabean and Bochy with that in mind, you will understand why Horlick Neukom extended those guys out for 3 more years of turnstile turning and butt-plug plugging.</p>
<p>Most fans fall into the trap, innocently enough, of repeating the mantra of &#8220;competing&#8221;, and  by repeating it often enough, folks end up eventually believing that competing is an objective itself and not the means to an end.  In all competitive sports winners think in terms of winning, not competing.  The guys that want to be &#8220;competitive&#8221; are the fodder for the championship seekers.  They are the backdrop against which winners demonstrate their excellence.</p>
<p>Winning was: &#8220;Bonds took Gagne deep to win the game.&#8221;<br />
Competing is: &#8220;Rowand had a nice AB against Broxton, hit a sacrifice fly to get the Giants within a run to come up just short.&#8221; </p>
<p>Compete has a complete different meaning than winning.  The Giants will spend enough to compete, but not risk enough to win.  That is the Microsoft way. </p>
<p>Does anybody really think that Microsoft builds and markets the best products they are capable of making?  Of course not.  They produce and sell the products that best contribute to their bottom line.  Build and sell products that are &#8220;just good enough&#8221; to function and keep the majority of users semi-satisfied so that even if they aren&#8217;t happy, they are not disillusioned enough to stop using their products and services.  Thats capitalism in its simplest form </p>
<p>&#8220;Compete in the marketplace&#8221; is fine if you&#8217;re a business, a local industry, a charity, or contractor.  It implies that as long as you compete, you &#8220;win&#8221; at least a portion of the prize. But thats not winning championships.  The elves at Phone Booth Cove know this. Thats why the use the term &#8220;compete&#8221; over and over again.  Its designed to induce the listener to lower his expectations and still be satisfied with an inferior result.</p>
<p>Note how even in the Pac 10,  Cal and Stanford Coaches Tedford and Harbaugh talk about &#8220;competing for the Big 10 Title&#8221; while Pete Carroll in Los Angeles talks about &#8220;winning a national championship&#8221;.  But Cal fans and Stanford fans are happy for the most part to compete and be entertained.  Like their counterparts who patronize Garlic Fries Stadium, they are happy to see a <strong>&#8220;competitive&#8221;</strong> team.  But can you imagine the reaction around the country and particularly Los Angeles if Pete Carroll and AD Mike Garret at USC talked about &#8220;competing&#8221; for a Big 10 Title as being the main goal every year?  </p>
<p>When Magowan was campaigning for the new stadium he constantly used phrases like winning a World Series, winning championships, winning their division with the expectation that they would be in the playoffs every year.  The new stadium would afford them the funds to compete against the Yankees Angels Red Sox and Dodgers for the best players in the game.  </p>
<p>But that was then. And this is now.</p>
<p>I mean really?  Who the fuck is kidding who around here?  Only fucking losers use the word &#8220;compete&#8221; to define their goals.  Winners talk about winning championships constantly. The Giants,  and the rest of the risk-avoidance crowd talk about competing.  And I have no qualms with that whatsoever.</p>
<p>What I do have a problem with however, is fucking retards lying and trying to manipulate reality with Baer-originated horseshit that the Giants are anything but a glorified extension of Microsoft marketing principals applied to the amusement park at 3rd and King.</p>
<p>I call bullshit on the entire Giants operation. It is a fraud.</p>
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		<title>By: B</title>
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		<dc:creator>B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 13:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;they have enough of a payroll to be able to compete&quot;

I think this statement is where a lot of people have a problem.  We spend enough to compete, to be &quot;in this thing&quot; until the very end.  We don&#039;t spend enough to win a championship.  Given the Giants market size and revenue stream, we should be able to (Forbes estimates say the Giants are the biggest market team that&#039;s had a positive operating revenue every year for the last 6 years, for instance) spend enough to seriously compete for a championship at least some years.  

Instead, the ownership group is content to spend in the middle of the pack and pocket a profit every single season.  Middle of the pack is fine for their purposes - because the wild card keeps half the teams in the race into September, it keeps the casual fan&#039;s interest up, but it doesn&#039;t show a serious commitment to bringing home a title.

To the facts:

12 teams outspent the Giants this year.  The closest of those 12 to the Giants was the White Sox, and they still outspent the Giants by ~$13.5M.  Last season, 16 teams outspent the Giants.
*These numbers were based on opening day payroll figures compiled by USA Today</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;they have enough of a payroll to be able to compete&#8221;</p>
<p>I think this statement is where a lot of people have a problem.  We spend enough to compete, to be &#8220;in this thing&#8221; until the very end.  We don&#8217;t spend enough to win a championship.  Given the Giants market size and revenue stream, we should be able to (Forbes estimates say the Giants are the biggest market team that&#8217;s had a positive operating revenue every year for the last 6 years, for instance) spend enough to seriously compete for a championship at least some years.  </p>
<p>Instead, the ownership group is content to spend in the middle of the pack and pocket a profit every single season.  Middle of the pack is fine for their purposes &#8211; because the wild card keeps half the teams in the race into September, it keeps the casual fan&#8217;s interest up, but it doesn&#8217;t show a serious commitment to bringing home a title.</p>
<p>To the facts:</p>
<p>12 teams outspent the Giants this year.  The closest of those 12 to the Giants was the White Sox, and they still outspent the Giants by ~$13.5M.  Last season, 16 teams outspent the Giants.<br />
*These numbers were based on opening day payroll figures compiled by USA Today</p>
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		<title>By: trantor</title>
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		<dc:creator>trantor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 06:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mia, the one disagreement I have is that the Giants are not averse to spending, they have enough of a payroll to be able to compete.

Its the fact that Sabean repeatedly invests in has-been &quot;veterans&quot;, who struggle to compete at below league average levels.

An occasional mistake, great. But Bernard to Rowand, this is a pattern that should be screaming over the ownership boardroom at their crap-tastic highly informative quarterly meetings. But this Limited Partnership has no clue, or serious interest in what is going on with the General Manager, or his hired hand. 

That is what pisses people off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mia, the one disagreement I have is that the Giants are not averse to spending, they have enough of a payroll to be able to compete.</p>
<p>Its the fact that Sabean repeatedly invests in has-been &#8220;veterans&#8221;, who struggle to compete at below league average levels.</p>
<p>An occasional mistake, great. But Bernard to Rowand, this is a pattern that should be screaming over the ownership boardroom at their crap-tastic highly informative quarterly meetings. But this Limited Partnership has no clue, or serious interest in what is going on with the General Manager, or his hired hand. </p>
<p>That is what pisses people off.</p>
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		<title>By: B</title>
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		<dc:creator>B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 01:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good info.  A few points that&#039;s dependent on, though:

We resign Brad Penny (or comparable pitcher).
We have no injuries to our starters.
We have no injuries to our relievers.
We don&#039;t have to call up any minor league guys for starts OR relief appearances (well, there are 19 total pitchers there giving us room for one call-up I guess).
Every single pitcher on our staff puts up a sub-4.50 ERA except 1.  That seems a bit optimistic to me?  Obviously guys can beat their projections, too, but it just looks like a lot of those guys have a lot more room to perform worse than better...

If a lot of things go very right, sure, we could come close to matching last years performance ERA-wise.  We&#039;re talking about total run prevention, though, and there are a couple more points left.  Defense - Winn is gone.  Rowand is older.  Renteria is older.  Some players may improve, some may decline, can we repeat the same performance as last year where we were one of the best defensive teams in the majors?  Sanchez, if he&#039;s healthy, can possibly improve our 2B defense from last year (we were pretty average overall at 2B).  Will Ishikawa or Garko or some unknown other player get the majority of the 1B playing time?  Who&#039;s going to play corner OF?  These will all have an effect - like before, I&#039;d bet on a slightly worse performance for next season overall, though.  Another place where injuries will certainly play a role over the course of the season.

Another point - I have no idea how unearned runs work.  I don&#039;t know if teams can possibly be skilled at it, how well it correlates from year to year, or anything about the factors that affect it.  I do know only 3 teams had less unearned runs than the Giants last year.  We let up 40 unearned runs.  The Phillies let up the least at 36.  The Nationals had the most at 80.  The average was 55.  Again, I don&#039;t know anything about this, but my wild guess is that we can probably expect 10-20 additional unearned runs next year relative to this year - basically just being closer to average.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good info.  A few points that&#8217;s dependent on, though:</p>
<p>We resign Brad Penny (or comparable pitcher).<br />
We have no injuries to our starters.<br />
We have no injuries to our relievers.<br />
We don&#8217;t have to call up any minor league guys for starts OR relief appearances (well, there are 19 total pitchers there giving us room for one call-up I guess).<br />
Every single pitcher on our staff puts up a sub-4.50 ERA except 1.  That seems a bit optimistic to me?  Obviously guys can beat their projections, too, but it just looks like a lot of those guys have a lot more room to perform worse than better&#8230;</p>
<p>If a lot of things go very right, sure, we could come close to matching last years performance ERA-wise.  We&#8217;re talking about total run prevention, though, and there are a couple more points left.  Defense &#8211; Winn is gone.  Rowand is older.  Renteria is older.  Some players may improve, some may decline, can we repeat the same performance as last year where we were one of the best defensive teams in the majors?  Sanchez, if he&#8217;s healthy, can possibly improve our 2B defense from last year (we were pretty average overall at 2B).  Will Ishikawa or Garko or some unknown other player get the majority of the 1B playing time?  Who&#8217;s going to play corner OF?  These will all have an effect &#8211; like before, I&#8217;d bet on a slightly worse performance for next season overall, though.  Another place where injuries will certainly play a role over the course of the season.</p>
<p>Another point &#8211; I have no idea how unearned runs work.  I don&#8217;t know if teams can possibly be skilled at it, how well it correlates from year to year, or anything about the factors that affect it.  I do know only 3 teams had less unearned runs than the Giants last year.  We let up 40 unearned runs.  The Phillies let up the least at 36.  The Nationals had the most at 80.  The average was 55.  Again, I don&#8217;t know anything about this, but my wild guess is that we can probably expect 10-20 additional unearned runs next year relative to this year &#8211; basically just being closer to average.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 23:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As shown above, Bill James&#039; projections for the Giants Offense in 2010 do not agree and now below I will show that his projections for the Giants Pitching in 2010 also does not agree.

Sourced again from Grant at Mccovey Chronicles the Bill James 2010 Pitching Projections for the Giants are as follows:

Starting Pitchers
Matt Cain - 3.36 ERA in 225 Innings yielding 84 earned runs
Tim Lincecum - 2.80 ERA in 228 Innings yielding 71 earned runs
Brad Penny - 4.01 ERA in 182 Innings yielding 81 earned runs
Jonathan Sanchez - 3.91 ERA in 184 Innings yielding 80 earned runs
Barry Zito - 3.95 ERA in 196 Innings yielding 86 earned runs
Total - 402 earned runs in 1015 Innings resulting in a rotation team ERA of 3.56 which beats 2009&#039;s 3.58.

Relief Pitchers
Jeremy Affeldt - 3.94 ERA in 64 Innings yielding 28 earned runs
Bob Howry - 3.44 ERA in 68 Innings yielding 26 earned runs
Randy Johnson - 3.67 ERA in 54 Innings yielding 22 earned runs
Joe Martinez - 4.18 ERA in 56 Innings yielding 26 earned runs
Brandon Medders - 4.38 ERA in 74 Innings yielding 36 earned runs
Justin Miller - 4.40 ERA in 43 Innings yielding 21 earned runs
Sergio Romo - 2.25 ERA in 44 Innings yielding 11 earned runs
Merkin Valdez - 5.02 ERA in 43 Innings yielding 24 earned runs
Brian Wilson - 3.24 ERA in 75 Innings yielding 27 earned runs
Total - 197 earned runs in 521 Innings resulting in a bullpen team ERA of 3.40 which beats 2009&#039;s 3.49.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As shown above, Bill James&#8217; projections for the Giants Offense in 2010 do not agree and now below I will show that his projections for the Giants Pitching in 2010 also does not agree.</p>
<p>Sourced again from Grant at Mccovey Chronicles the Bill James 2010 Pitching Projections for the Giants are as follows:</p>
<p>Starting Pitchers<br />
Matt Cain &#8211; 3.36 ERA in 225 Innings yielding 84 earned runs<br />
Tim Lincecum &#8211; 2.80 ERA in 228 Innings yielding 71 earned runs<br />
Brad Penny &#8211; 4.01 ERA in 182 Innings yielding 81 earned runs<br />
Jonathan Sanchez &#8211; 3.91 ERA in 184 Innings yielding 80 earned runs<br />
Barry Zito &#8211; 3.95 ERA in 196 Innings yielding 86 earned runs<br />
Total &#8211; 402 earned runs in 1015 Innings resulting in a rotation team ERA of 3.56 which beats 2009&#8242;s 3.58.</p>
<p>Relief Pitchers<br />
Jeremy Affeldt &#8211; 3.94 ERA in 64 Innings yielding 28 earned runs<br />
Bob Howry &#8211; 3.44 ERA in 68 Innings yielding 26 earned runs<br />
Randy Johnson &#8211; 3.67 ERA in 54 Innings yielding 22 earned runs<br />
Joe Martinez &#8211; 4.18 ERA in 56 Innings yielding 26 earned runs<br />
Brandon Medders &#8211; 4.38 ERA in 74 Innings yielding 36 earned runs<br />
Justin Miller &#8211; 4.40 ERA in 43 Innings yielding 21 earned runs<br />
Sergio Romo &#8211; 2.25 ERA in 44 Innings yielding 11 earned runs<br />
Merkin Valdez &#8211; 5.02 ERA in 43 Innings yielding 24 earned runs<br />
Brian Wilson &#8211; 3.24 ERA in 75 Innings yielding 27 earned runs<br />
Total &#8211; 197 earned runs in 521 Innings resulting in a bullpen team ERA of 3.40 which beats 2009&#8242;s 3.49.</p>
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