…. Call me teased, (again)
Two games back in the AILC with fifteen to go. Can the Giants get enough offense to catch the Rockies? Will Matt Cain ever win again? Can Lincecum throw out a couple of monster, dominating games to snatch the Cy Young Award back from Adam Wainwright? Will Sandoval average more than an RBI per game and get to 100?
Seriously, it looks like I might’ve been wrong about the Rockies, (or, at the least, I was a bit hasty). Or maybe, just maybe, they’ve hit the wall. If they keep losing, anything is possible. And they could keep losing. Their last nine games are the Cardinals, Brewers and Dodgers. Our last twelve are Padres, D’backs and Cubs. That’s a bit of an edge.
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One of the inevitable things this season has been the long-awaited meltdown of the starters. Can you imagine the kind of physical and mental pressure those guys had to undergo for 145 games, going out there time after time and knowing just a mistake or two could mean the ballgame? Especially as young as they are? That kind of shit, along with the heavy workloads, is going to take its toll down the stretch. Of all of management’s crimes, what they laid on their erstwhile magnificent rotation may be the worst. Of course, it necessarily flowed from all of the previous blunders. Felonies compounded, one on top of another…
Of Dickwads and Pindicks
This franchise has been a disgrace since 2003, refusing to pursue and or secure true hitters blaming Bonds’ big contract and when that went off the books, the dickwads blamed their failures on “a pitchers park”.
Since Baker left, Sabean’s been hiring fruitcakes, pinochle players, and retarded pizza delivery truck drivers to play outfield and infield, before finally deciding to saddle the pitching staff with a tub of pudding who would finish third in a race with a pregnant woman, while waving ‘ole at passed ball after passed ball.
This is not a baseball team. It is a pitching staff sharing a dugout with a collection of over the hill, useless, beer guts who were kind of okay in 2006, with a generous sprinkling of worthless graduates of the Joe Lefebvre College of Slop Hacking, ready to join previous graduates Todd Linden, Lance Niekro, Dan Ortmeir, Marcus Jensen and all the rest of the ruined and inept system players before them under the Sabean regime on the scrap heap of retro-sheet.org trivia.
This is a pitching staff that has now run out of gas for all the reasons mentioned in the article and the above comments. Don’t look for them to put out a season like this anytime soon. One only has to look at the 1980 Oakland A’s when the idiot drunken jack-ass Billy Martin ruined the careers of 5 promising starters by ringing up 94 complete games out of Steve McCatty, Rick Langford, Mike Norris, Brian Kingman, and Matt Keough. He literally ruined the careers of all 5 of those players in one season by the same injudicious abuse that Bochy has invoked on Lincecum and Cain.
Until or unless Neukom cleans house and fumigates the front office as well as the clubhouse, this team is going nowhere. There is no hope on the horizon that this team will be capable of adding even the minimum 100 runs to this years total to make them competitive even in 2011.
Sanchez is the biggest ripoff trade sine Nathan Liriano and Bonser. And again it was a team with no leverage and no money that got over on Sabean. He was medically unsound. He couldn’t even limp into the clubhouse the day he was supposed to be traded.
Their big time 16 year old prospect is in jail on murder charges. The best that come of it was he was a 19 year old kid with 2.1 million dollars of partnership money in a bar with a gun while his teammates were winning a championship.
The list of travesties committed by Sabean and Bochy are too numerous to mention in any detail in this comment section. The bottom line is this.
The Giants are going to finish in 3rd place or lower in a 5 team division for the 5th time in 5 years.
For the 5th year in a row, they are going to finish last or near last in most every major offensive category and next year looks worse. I predicted that it would be almost impossible for Lincecum to repeat his 18 wins from last year and that was a slam dunk. Back to back 162 game seasons will reveal every single weakness in a ballclub. And this season revealed what every person with a clear head has known for quite some time. That Brian Sabean was and is incompetent.
Despite Mr. Thumbface Mychael Urban, Giants announcers and other specious media mouthpieces spreading that propaganda, the AT&T is hitter neutral. As written here before, if the Giants were that concerned, they would simply reel in the fences in triples alley and put in novelty seats and make even more money. It is such a blatant lie, that only somebody who does not really study or question the game would believe such a silly notion. People like this go through life only knowing what they know because it makes them feel better to listen to the lies of the liars who are paid to lie to them.
Somehow it makes their childish, childhood notions seem believable and lets them sleep at night. The liars and frauds and conmen know this human fraility and weakness. They take advantage of it. The pigeon drop and three card monte games along with lotteries and gaming casinos reel in millions from the illusion chasers. Idiotic garlic-farters are no different, they just have a different set of illusions.
Some of us see a broken down horrible trade for a Freddy Sanchez consumated by a fraudulent, ill-tempered over-educated hack, and they see and hear “Three Time All Star” “.300 Career Batting Average” “Plays the Game the Right Way.”
Some of us see a great ballplayer and flawed human being dominate the game of baseball like nobody before him on a nightly basis for 15 years and sit back in awe and appreciation and excitement. The deluded and the haters see “cheater” “tainted” “hallowed boohoohoo”.
And Baer and Neukom rake in millions for the partnership.
sanchez is done for the season…torn meniscus
the fucker was playing injured….you dont tear a meniscus going for a throw if you are healthy
Of course he was playing injured. We all watched this guy literally limp from one clubhouse to another under the stands on that bad knee, as Baer and Sabean’s stooges breathlessly proclaimed that the
“Giants Doctors have given Freddy Sanchez full clearance and he’s a 300 hitter and a 3 time all-star so buy your tickets and beer early and often because we’re in this thing!!!!.
Torn cartilage, is fairly easy to diagnose for a competent orthopedist, or even a sports chiropractor. Especially if the meniscus is unstable enought to slip and hook onto other tissue. Over time, arthritis develops in the joint making even more of these episodes likely. Sometimes a slightly awkward step is enough to cause the knee to “lock up” like it did to Sanchez
Physical therapy or chiropractic manipulation can alleviate the immediate symptoms by freeing up the ligament from the meniscus temporarily. Once swelling is reduced, the person can resume normal activity until the next time. And next time has come often for Sanchez this year. Just
Clearly the Giants knew of Sanchez condition, but hoped to roll the dice for a couple of months and maybe get some serviceable play out of him; and if not they could renegotiate a chintzy new contract or kick him out to free agency with a $600,000.00 buy-out. In their minds if he held up, he would bring his “.300 lifetime batting average, 3 times an All-Star and gritty gamer guts” to Pac Bell and contribute to the ongoing illusion of “we’re in this thing”. And if not, fuck it, all they were out was some minor league dude.
Actually pretty much the same scenario that Sabean went through with AJ Piersychitski when he sent Nathan, Liriano and Bonzer to Minnesota. He didn’t have to give up quite as much for Sanchez. Sanchez was injured and the Pirates were desperate to unload his salary, so he only got fleeced for the second best pitching prospect instead of his future closer, and the number one and number two pitching prospects in the system.
And its not like any of this should be a surprise. If anything a casual perusal of the internet would have shown that Sanchez was a horrible, horrible risk for anybody–even without having to give up a prospect. One look at his injury rap sheet and even the most optimistic pie-eyed fan would have cringed at the laundry list of maladies afflicting this guy. And the time lost to injuries was obviously becoming more frequent and the duration longer. The likelihood of Sanchez coming back next year and repeating what he did in 2006 is about as likely as Bonds coming back next season and repeating his own 2006 season.
This is the same crack of team of docs that the Giants have to answer for in the bizarre Noah Lowry case and his misdiagnosed injuries. What about the fat overweight, poo-bucket who was a glob of torn-tissue-waiting-to-happen, and his three year budget busting contract?
Its bad enough that Sabean’s evaluating skills and criteria are as outdated and wrongheaded as the Commodore 64 home computer. Now it seems that the medical team is looking not too good this year either.
bp articles about Bochy and the Giants… it’s a pretty hard hitting article (not quite mia+ territory) considering BP is part of the MSM.
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=9566
Not sure if you need to be a subscriber to read the whole article but here’s the last paragraph:
The Giants are going to miss the postseason by a small amount of wins. Bruce Bochy’s decision to bench Fred Lewis will be significant part of the gap between playing into October and not, and when you look back at the process, you can see that it’s an embarrassing display of incompetence. A good manager would have made use of Lewis’ skills, skills unique on the Giants’ roster. Instead, Bochy jerked the player around and then used bad performance analysis to bury him. The Giants and their fans deserve better than that kind of incompetence.
Exactly, exactly, exactly. That and his indefensible misuse of Bobby Howry in late innings of close ballgames, Bengie Molina in the cleanup spot and behind the plate when he is obviously injured and calling a shitty game, and Randy Winn against left handed pitching. Just simply some of the most ridiculous use of a roster I have ever seen at any level….ever.
Bochy’s good friend Kevin Towers had to dfa Vinny Castilla so bad was his performance with a .569 OPS. Thats not an exaggeration. That is exactly what Towers said. It was Sandy Alderson that finally put the hammer down and instructed Towers to show Bochy the door. At the end of the 2006 season. When he still had a year left on his contract. After winning the NL West.
Anybody and everybody that thinks Bochy should be back next year needs their faces slapped and their birth certificates revoked because anybody that thinks Bochy is a competent, let alone above-average manager isn’t from this planet.
It is Bochy’s mismangement on the field and Sabeans numerous and countless fuckups in personnel moves that have prevented this team from winning this division. This fucking year.
I and Johns and Scott and Uncle Joe and many others who have posted over the years have maintained for a long long time that Sabean’s flaws were masked by Bonds. Ironically it was the performance of this year’s pitching staff that unmasked him for the incompetent arrogant nitwit that he is…starting with his hiring of Bruce Bochy.
+mia,
just want to say, while bonds was still here, i really thought that sabean was creating a post bonds plan….i really did
i found out quickly that wasnt the case
he had no plan…he still doesnt have a plan
but you know what is going to happen…dont ya?
neukom is gonna look at this season, say the team outperformed expectations…and extend both sabeans and bochy’s contracts
its just that simple
look at how they treated kfran and bowker
im not saying that either will ever be major league talent
but if you compare how they were treated to rowand, winn and renteria…its pretty amazing
so basically, if you make min wage, you can be jerked around
if you have a multi mil, multi year contract…no matter how much you suck…the giants are gonna play you
took to the final 3 weeks of the season for the brain trust to finally see that rentawreck should not be starting
totally fucking amazing
You forgot switch hitters. Sabean LOVES a batter who can switch hit. Even if he hits .178 from the right side.
Well I had to hold it to Ten, since it was a Top Ten. But what the fuck, this is the Giants so in their world we can safely assume that
eleven=ten
Add “Left-handed batter who hits from the rightside like a girl” to the list
More Fun With Dicks and Dickheads
Or in this case, the brilliant baseball minds of your San Francisco Giants.
Freddy Sanchez (the Barbi Doll of infielders) twisted his knee taking 4 steps to his right to retrieve Aaron Rowand’s sloppy throw back to the infield shortly after Mark Reynolds hit a 1st inning, 2-run jack off yet another Barry Zito bp fastball or hanging curve. (Hard to tell, they both look the same from the cf camera).
This is the third time Sanchez has been hurt and out of the lineup in six weeks, since the Giants traded their second best minor league prospect to the Pirates for him. Hell the guy literally limped into the Giants clubhouse and had to park his ass on the bench and in the whirlpool for the first several games before he even got fitted for a uniform. But at least he is hitting almost as well as Eugenio Othello Velezo.
Sanchez with the Giants in 102 ABs: .284/.295/.324/ OPS .619
Velez in 232 ABs with Giants 2009: .273/.321/.433/ OPS .754
And not only does Sanchez have no power, ( a sub .350 SLG is about what you expect from a relief pitcher) he has no speed, (10 stolen bases in 7 years, and only 2 walks in 107 plate appearances this year. He has 38 freeking homeruns in 7 years topping out at 11 4 seasons ago!
His numerous injuries have one bright side though. They have kept him below the 635 plate appearance threshold for automatic vesting of his $8 million dollar option for 2010.
But sad to say, if Sabean is still around, a monster ego, arrogance, and stupidity will probably force the dickheads in the front office to offer Sanchez a 2 year contract at just enough money to enable them to claim they “don’t have the funds to compete” for guys like Jason Bey, Matt Holliday…and other guys who have demonstrated a superior ability to get on base, hit for power and win fucking ball games and make opponents actually concern themselves with who the guy in the on-deck circle is.
But Sanchez is exactly the type of player that Sabean continues to pursue in trades and free agency to build around.
From Brian Sabean’s TOP TEN REASONS TO ACQUIRE A PLAYER
1. Over 30
2. Often Injured
3. Little to No power
4. No speed.
5. Low to non-existent walk rate
6. Aggressive first pitch hackers
7. Empty mid to upper 200s batting average
8. Low to mid-range double digit RBIs
9. Few if any stolen bases
10.Over-Market contract for multiple years.
Okay. Brain Teaser time:
How many players since 1997, Sabeans first year as GM, has he signed as a free agent, or traded prospects for or otherwise acquired that meet at least 5 of those criteria.
If you can’t come up with “countless” examples, you’ve been watching too many play-off teams.
+mia,
I saw the Sanchez injury Monday Night…and I’m thinking…what the fuck just happened. Tweaked
his knee backing up an outfield relay….not a good omen. Damaged goods baby.
Until the fans hold mgmt accountable…and vote with their dollars…not much will change in the upcoming years…and we will have another season on OBM full of rants and tirades about Baer and Sabean.
Another season gone by the wayside.
To bad villalona shot a guy. We coulda used someone with some fire (besides timmy) on this team as opposed to these vanilla chumps who take strike outs and losses as if they couldn’t be effected any less
More salt for the wounds. Cecil Cooper managed to get his ass canned in Houston because Lance Berkman shit the bed, Roy Oswalt got hurt and posted one of the worst records of his career before hitting the DL, and owner Drayton McClane, GM Ed Wade, and Director of Baseball OPS refused to fire themselves for the failure of their $103 Million payroll. Well, there was that and thinking that signing Russ Ortiz and Mike Hampton to fill out your starting rotation was going to get them back to the World Series.
So old Cecil got the axe in the neck with 13 games left and a vested option for next year. Unlike the Giants fans who seem mainly interested in meaningful games and garlic beer-farts as opposed to pennant chases, the Astros attendance is down 12 percent from last year holding at about 75% capacity compared to the Giants 85%.
Cooper was the 4th manager to get shafted this season. Melvin got shown the door in Arizona in favor of Stanford frat boy and 1st Round Draft failure A.J. Hinch, and Floyd the Barber got sent to MLB network to play the cornpone role on MLB network’s nightime highlight and commentary show, and was replaced by former Dodger failure Jim Tracy. Manny Acta got bounced in Washington…lucky bastard.
And in further revolting develpments, Crainius Melonus is still drooling over his cardboard lineup sheets when not kissing Molina-Aurilia-Rowand-Zito-Winn ass maintaining that those guys are going to get it turned around anytime now.
At least with Alou, his excuses were unintelligible. Bochy is just articulate enough to where you can actually understand his meandering cliched responses to questions about double switches before the games even start and his brilliant explanation on why he would bat a guy with an OPS of 233 against lefties, in the three hole with the season on the line.
Neukom is the most boring stiff suited sack blathering hot air since Jimmy Carter slipped on a cardigan sweater in 1977, sat in front of a fireplace and told us to turn down our thermostats because there was a malaise in the country. If he turns out to be anything other than a guy addicted to boardroom meetings and fucking Perrier by the gallon, I will be totally flabbergasted.
Neukom is a bow-tied suit more suited to be teaching law classes at Dartmouth. Not a warrior. MacCourt, Artie Morreno down south; John Henry and Hank Steinbrenner in the Northeast, Mike Illitch and Charlie Montefort in Detroit and Colorado are fierce competitors and will go to extraordinary lengths to win and not waste time with partner fucking meetings going over actuarial projections of garlic fries, garlic ice-cream and the market value adjustment of a fucking cha-cha bowl.
They are doing an excellent imitation of John York before he finally wised up and decided to let smart football people start running things again.
P.S. Since the All Star Break the Oakland A’s have the 8th best record in MLB. The Giants are ranked 17th
Nice.
+mia,
Apathy has set in. Too frustrated to even comment how a guy like Winn starts…let alone bat in the three hole with an ops below 250. Cannot fathom knowing we have a couple more years of Rowand in CF and another year of Renteria. Unfortunately…Bochy and “The Idiot” will most likely be back. Because in the Gigantes Organization…just being mediocre is good enough.
If you got a chance to hear Eddie D interviewed yesterday….you know why the Niners were winners…and will be again. Yesterday was the first time in years…that the Niners phsyically beat up a team. It was a long time coming…and good to see.
Sorry about the football comments…but, realizing we are going to be saddled with Sabean and Bochy makes me want to take a hiatus from baseball. The visual of Neukom says it all….and he is at the helm. God help us.
i watched the entire niner game….first time in years
for those who say a coach doesnt make a difference…look at what singletary has done for that team
the d is basically the same as last year….but they have a fire in their belly
they are playing the game as singletary did when he was a player
by midseason, no one is gonna want to face the niners
Unc Joe,
Amen. This team is for real…and say what you want about Hill…He just wins games…and takes care of the ball.
Yes…Singletary has them believing…and they have all bought into his scheme of doing things.
Big test this weekend….let’s see how we handle Petersen and Favre.
Agree. Neukom’s last interview on KNBR essentially confirms this. While they speak in code about a detailed “evaluation process”, they only meet 6 times a year and they don’t have the details to know what is going on. I doubt any of the stakeholders understand modern baseball (the statistical analysis), see a couple great pitchers, a home grown star and think “Sabean, great job!”.
Unless ownership figures out how much money Sabean wasted in the past 10 years, he is getting a nice extension.
This is why general partnership investments are rarely successful above a modest level, someone has to be the guy who spends his life focused on making the business a success. there is nobody who goes to bed worrying about how to improve the team. That is what the great business and sports franchise owners do – they give a damn – after the lights go out each night.
trantor,
Spot on.
The good news is that its a virtual lock that both Sabean and Bochy will back next year. Management is happy enough that they didn’t lose 100 games as was predicted. Attendance didn’t drop as far as was thought. I’m sure they’re all patting themselves on the back.
giants needed a sweep in la
they didnt get it
its over
Giants needed to sign 2 big bats, not Renteria and Randy Johnson. If they had they would of sewed up this division 2 weeks ago.
Fuck this front office. Totally unprepared to take advantage of good fortune even when they shoot themselves repeatedly in the foot. Fools, Fuckheads and Fatasses.
And speaking of Fatasses, the fat 16 year old, Angel Villalona, that the Giants made the richest Latin American signing in franchise history in 2006 by making him an instant multi-millionaire just got popped for murder. With a gun. In a bar. In the Dominacan Republic. Right about the same time his “healthy” teammates were celebrating their California League Championship back in the good old USA.
This is the same kid I got called out on for speculating that the Giants were playing with fire with this kid, considering his background, his lack of conditioning, and youth. And that the Giants would have probably been better off saving that money for a big bat rather than take an absolute roll of the dice on a kid barely starting adolescence. Just about one of the stupidest things an organization can do, simply because of the low reward/high risk of giving an uneducated fat kid with no demonstrated self-discipline, an amount of money that was virtually a license to run amok.
Just love the way Sabean’s minions in the organization look after company assets. Maybe they’ve expanded on their trademarked Giant Way adage of “You won’t get a better pitch to hit than the first pitch.” to include “You’ll never get the drop unless you take the first shot”.
And besides the utter spectacle that the Giants have made of themselves against the Dodgers in the last 10 days, can these incompetent doofi running this organization do anything between now and the end of the season that could possibly redeem their reputations as anything other than a bunch of incompetent, lying, greedy jackals?
i dont get the villalona thing
kid was on the dl, when did he go back home?
usually the org would keep him up to work on rehab in prep for winter ball
someone really screwed the pooch on this one
knowing what is currently going on in south america, you dont take your eye of a prized prospect like this
but still, people are in sabean’s camp, saying that his contract should be extended
just how many things need to go wrong before he is shown the door?
Baseballbriefs.com tracking back …. Call me teased, (again)…
Baseballbriefs.com tracking back …. Call me teased, (again)…