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		<title>By: +mia</title>
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		<dc:creator>+mia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 16:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah. No shit. Donnie Baseball. Almost forgot about him. Painful. One of the purest sweet hitters I ever saw. Just a beautiful swing. With pitchers everybody talks about the shoulder, the arm, the elbow.  Those things can be surgically repaired know.  A back injury to a drop and drive pitcher is capable of ending his career in a whole hell of a hurry.  More so than a tall and fall guy like Prior.

When you enter this realm, you&#039;re really delving into the unknown,  Idiot&#039;s and Bochy&#039;s nonchalance  notwithstanding</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah. No shit. Donnie Baseball. Almost forgot about him. Painful. One of the purest sweet hitters I ever saw. Just a beautiful swing. With pitchers everybody talks about the shoulder, the arm, the elbow.  Those things can be surgically repaired know.  A back injury to a drop and drive pitcher is capable of ending his career in a whole hell of a hurry.  More so than a tall and fall guy like Prior.</p>
<p>When you enter this realm, you&#8217;re really delving into the unknown,  Idiot&#8217;s and Bochy&#8217;s nonchalance  notwithstanding</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 16:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look at Mattingly</description>
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		<title>By: +mia</title>
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		<dc:creator>+mia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 01:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think its been clear for almost 2 seasons now. The Giants are going to wring every fucking thing out of him that they can because they know they have no chance to lock him up once he attains free agency.  

His agent&#039;s insistence on a series of one year contracts and risking arbitration instead of a Matt Cain, Noah Lowry, low risk, low reward contracts tells you that he and his agent (and no doubt his old man) may suspect that the Giants have no intention of paying for the type of run support he wants or needs.  The run support necessary  to put up the kind of numbers to score the compensation they think is commensurate with his ability is not something they think they can count on now, or even in the foreseeable future. 

That is unless the front office comes under new management. 

Back injuries, particularly along the lower spine are complex, and hard to diagnose and fix.  They can heal quickly or never 100 percent. Sometimes it takes weeks to get back to 100 percent, sometimes years, sometimes never at all. Again look at Eric Chavez, Joe Montana.  Back injuries are just scary as hell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think its been clear for almost 2 seasons now. The Giants are going to wring every fucking thing out of him that they can because they know they have no chance to lock him up once he attains free agency.  </p>
<p>His agent&#8217;s insistence on a series of one year contracts and risking arbitration instead of a Matt Cain, Noah Lowry, low risk, low reward contracts tells you that he and his agent (and no doubt his old man) may suspect that the Giants have no intention of paying for the type of run support he wants or needs.  The run support necessary  to put up the kind of numbers to score the compensation they think is commensurate with his ability is not something they think they can count on now, or even in the foreseeable future. </p>
<p>That is unless the front office comes under new management. </p>
<p>Back injuries, particularly along the lower spine are complex, and hard to diagnose and fix.  They can heal quickly or never 100 percent. Sometimes it takes weeks to get back to 100 percent, sometimes years, sometimes never at all. Again look at Eric Chavez, Joe Montana.  Back injuries are just scary as hell.</p>
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		<title>By: +mia</title>
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		<dc:creator>+mia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 00:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thats the frustration of watching a guy like Larry Baer manipulate his target audience with willing accomplices throughout the media, especially his lapdog employees at Comcast and the Giants broadcast booth. They never seem to run out of excuses for failure. Never. And they&#039;re all plausible. And they are omni-present, never taking even 5 minutes off. Baer and his minions are as vigilant in the monitoring  of their audience as any White House Pollster. 

What a fucking relief to listen to Hank Greenwald Jr call the game Sunday from Milwaukee on the radio. He actually called the game in a forthright manner rather than offer up a never ending stream of patronizing homilies over the wholesomeness and downright goodness of all things Giants.  Right on through Howry making a mess before turning the game over to Merkin Valdez for Fielder&#039;s walk off.  He just called the game and let the game carry the drama without the nonstop cheerleading and consequent excuses and so forth.

It was during the radio broadcast of Sunday&#039;s game that I came to realize just  how jingoistic the Giants broadcast guys on Comcast and KNBR and the rest have become over the last couple of years.  Its as if the team performance is not good enough to speak for itself anymore, but rather now requires constant explanation, rationalizations and promoting as if they let their guard down for one minute, the audience will turn away in disugust.  Krukow sounds no different than Don Sutton in his salad days with Skip Carey in Atlanta on TBS or Hawk Harrelson on WGN.  At least nobody took Harey Carey seriously rightfully dismissing his slurriness for what it was, pure shilling for the home team.   

Krukow, and Fleming and Snow, Roberts and some of the other studio hacks not even worth mentioning have become a disgusting non-stop 9 inning infomercial.  The only thing missing from Giants media events are Billy Mays and Ron Fucking Popeil, and a studio audience promised exciting parting gifts after the event is in the can.

The fucking Giants have become as faceless and feckless as ESPN and one long fucking car commercial. They have lost their fucking way and are as devoid of anything more traditional than Al Davis&#039; polyester hair and leisure suits.

And thats why I have a really short temper when I see some of the stuff echoing all the propaganda that comes out of Third and King.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats the frustration of watching a guy like Larry Baer manipulate his target audience with willing accomplices throughout the media, especially his lapdog employees at Comcast and the Giants broadcast booth. They never seem to run out of excuses for failure. Never. And they&#8217;re all plausible. And they are omni-present, never taking even 5 minutes off. Baer and his minions are as vigilant in the monitoring  of their audience as any White House Pollster. </p>
<p>What a fucking relief to listen to Hank Greenwald Jr call the game Sunday from Milwaukee on the radio. He actually called the game in a forthright manner rather than offer up a never ending stream of patronizing homilies over the wholesomeness and downright goodness of all things Giants.  Right on through Howry making a mess before turning the game over to Merkin Valdez for Fielder&#8217;s walk off.  He just called the game and let the game carry the drama without the nonstop cheerleading and consequent excuses and so forth.</p>
<p>It was during the radio broadcast of Sunday&#8217;s game that I came to realize just  how jingoistic the Giants broadcast guys on Comcast and KNBR and the rest have become over the last couple of years.  Its as if the team performance is not good enough to speak for itself anymore, but rather now requires constant explanation, rationalizations and promoting as if they let their guard down for one minute, the audience will turn away in disugust.  Krukow sounds no different than Don Sutton in his salad days with Skip Carey in Atlanta on TBS or Hawk Harrelson on WGN.  At least nobody took Harey Carey seriously rightfully dismissing his slurriness for what it was, pure shilling for the home team.   </p>
<p>Krukow, and Fleming and Snow, Roberts and some of the other studio hacks not even worth mentioning have become a disgusting non-stop 9 inning infomercial.  The only thing missing from Giants media events are Billy Mays and Ron Fucking Popeil, and a studio audience promised exciting parting gifts after the event is in the can.</p>
<p>The fucking Giants have become as faceless and feckless as ESPN and one long fucking car commercial. They have lost their fucking way and are as devoid of anything more traditional than Al Davis&#8217; polyester hair and leisure suits.</p>
<p>And thats why I have a really short temper when I see some of the stuff echoing all the propaganda that comes out of Third and King.</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Joe Mccarthy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uncle Joe Mccarthy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 00:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so the freak has back spasms and cant play

the indestructable man has been destroyed by bochy pushing him too far

and while this org refuses to start guys like posey...sends guys like kfran to siberia, and continues to fuck around with guys like nate (on the bench again tonite), they have no fucking problem throwing in a kid who has never pitched above an aa level pitchers league

im rooting for madbaum to throw a no-no....dont get me wrong.....but tonite just continues to fit the mo of this entire org

and lets hope it is just back spasms and nothing worse

the med team of this org has a habit of misdiagnosing ailments

oh...and if timmy is gone for more than a game...say goodbye to the post season</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so the freak has back spasms and cant play</p>
<p>the indestructable man has been destroyed by bochy pushing him too far</p>
<p>and while this org refuses to start guys like posey&#8230;sends guys like kfran to siberia, and continues to fuck around with guys like nate (on the bench again tonite), they have no fucking problem throwing in a kid who has never pitched above an aa level pitchers league</p>
<p>im rooting for madbaum to throw a no-no&#8230;.dont get me wrong&#8230;..but tonite just continues to fit the mo of this entire org</p>
<p>and lets hope it is just back spasms and nothing worse</p>
<p>the med team of this org has a habit of misdiagnosing ailments</p>
<p>oh&#8230;and if timmy is gone for more than a game&#8230;say goodbye to the post season</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 00:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, OK, I take back the idiot comment.  But, guys, come on.  You&#039;ve got to stop defending failure, and start talking about what&#039;s really happening with this team.

Is front office stability a good thing?  Of course it is.  But everything can be taken to its absurd conclusion, and we&#039;ve arrived at this team&#039;s event horizon.

Do the Giants deserve credit for the development of Wilson, Sanchez, Cain and Lincecum, the acquisition of Jeremy Affeldt, the league-best pitching staff?  Absolutely.  While it&#039;s easy to say Bochy or Righetti don&#039;t bring anything special to the table, they deserve credit for what the team is accomplishing.  I acknowledge that they&#039;ve done many good things this season.

At the same time, Bochy&#039;s handling of Fred Lewis, Nate Schierholz and the rest of the team&#039;s young players cannot be explained.  Leaving Buster Posey --the future of the team-- on the bench for the last week, while the team is scoring 3 runs a game, is simply laughable.  Benji Molina as a cleanup hitter, all season long, is patently absurd.

And Brian Sabean&#039;s failure is no longer defensible.  You cannot continue to explain away his failure to acquire good, young hitters of quality.  And because of his failure, we will end up with the best pitching staff in baseball watching the postseason on Fox, instead of playing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, OK, I take back the idiot comment.  But, guys, come on.  You&#8217;ve got to stop defending failure, and start talking about what&#8217;s really happening with this team.</p>
<p>Is front office stability a good thing?  Of course it is.  But everything can be taken to its absurd conclusion, and we&#8217;ve arrived at this team&#8217;s event horizon.</p>
<p>Do the Giants deserve credit for the development of Wilson, Sanchez, Cain and Lincecum, the acquisition of Jeremy Affeldt, the league-best pitching staff?  Absolutely.  While it&#8217;s easy to say Bochy or Righetti don&#8217;t bring anything special to the table, they deserve credit for what the team is accomplishing.  I acknowledge that they&#8217;ve done many good things this season.</p>
<p>At the same time, Bochy&#8217;s handling of Fred Lewis, Nate Schierholz and the rest of the team&#8217;s young players cannot be explained.  Leaving Buster Posey &#8211;the future of the team&#8211; on the bench for the last week, while the team is scoring 3 runs a game, is simply laughable.  Benji Molina as a cleanup hitter, all season long, is patently absurd.</p>
<p>And Brian Sabean&#8217;s failure is no longer defensible.  You cannot continue to explain away his failure to acquire good, young hitters of quality.  And because of his failure, we will end up with the best pitching staff in baseball watching the postseason on Fox, instead of playing.</p>
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		<title>By: +mia</title>
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		<dc:creator>+mia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 23:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just for clarification.  This is not directed at anybody here. But rather the less erudite opiners who frequent the usual places in the company of the usual suspects</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just for clarification.  This is not directed at anybody here. But rather the less erudite opiners who frequent the usual places in the company of the usual suspects</p>
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		<title>By: +mia</title>
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		<dc:creator>+mia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 23:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>
&lt;blockquote&gt;. At the time of the deal, Holliday was viewed by virtually everyone as a complete AL bust, a Coors Field fraud, and could have been taken off Oakland’s hands for table scraps.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

There is no shortage of useful and useless idiots willing to make excuses for Giants failure.  It is fallout from the post-modern idiotism that seems to permeate early 21st century western thinking, where failure is deemed  to be whatever the perpetrator of the failure wants it to be in order to escape accountability for his/her fuckups, and the ability to convince enough like-minded paste-eaters to go along with him/her.  

In other words  you have no shortage of stupid fuckers willing to make excuses for the failures of other stupid fuckers because in their stupid world there is no failure, only differences in results where the only thing that matters is that all the participants get a motherfucking plastic jesus trophy (like a high draft choice or a Cy Young Award nomination) at the end of the day after the tire-kicking is over so nobody has to feel bad.  As if life was all about ones hurt feelings. Who gives a shit.

Amazes me the amount of insipid thought processes people will subject themselves to, to avoid the ideas and opinions  that will render their little comfortable world of baseball as they want it to be, a media-generated myth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>. At the time of the deal, Holliday was viewed by virtually everyone as a complete AL bust, a Coors Field fraud, and could have been taken off Oakland’s hands for table scraps.</p></blockquote>
<p>There is no shortage of useful and useless idiots willing to make excuses for Giants failure.  It is fallout from the post-modern idiotism that seems to permeate early 21st century western thinking, where failure is deemed  to be whatever the perpetrator of the failure wants it to be in order to escape accountability for his/her fuckups, and the ability to convince enough like-minded paste-eaters to go along with him/her.  </p>
<p>In other words  you have no shortage of stupid fuckers willing to make excuses for the failures of other stupid fuckers because in their stupid world there is no failure, only differences in results where the only thing that matters is that all the participants get a motherfucking plastic jesus trophy (like a high draft choice or a Cy Young Award nomination) at the end of the day after the tire-kicking is over so nobody has to feel bad.  As if life was all about ones hurt feelings. Who gives a shit.</p>
<p>Amazes me the amount of insipid thought processes people will subject themselves to, to avoid the ideas and opinions  that will render their little comfortable world of baseball as they want it to be, a media-generated myth.</p>
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		<title>By: Fishchum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fishchum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 23:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan, while I stick to my original post I think +mia makes an excellent point on the flipside of my post - that for the last 15 years, it&#039;s been a lot of excuses as to why the Giants haven&#039;t brought a WS trophy to 3rd &amp; King. It always seems as if Sabean is able to pull off 1 good deal (in this case, Penny) that keeps him away from the edge of the gangplank that so many people would like to see him walk off of.

No, BTW - no self esteem issues here. Just an admittedly strange sense of humor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, while I stick to my original post I think +mia makes an excellent point on the flipside of my post &#8211; that for the last 15 years, it&#8217;s been a lot of excuses as to why the Giants haven&#8217;t brought a WS trophy to 3rd &amp; King. It always seems as if Sabean is able to pull off 1 good deal (in this case, Penny) that keeps him away from the edge of the gangplank that so many people would like to see him walk off of.</p>
<p>No, BTW &#8211; no self esteem issues here. Just an admittedly strange sense of humor.</p>
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