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By: El

El — Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:01:32 +0000

Lefty!

By: scott s

scott s — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 23:33:30 +0000

Lefty,

Good to hear from you. Enjoy your site.

Sanchez tonight. Hopefully…he puts Zito back in the pen.

By: Lefty Malo

Lefty Malo — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:16:46 +0000

There’s nothing in that NYT article that slams Bonds. If you actually read it you wouldn’t have needed to insult the writer. (Who, as Robert points out above, probably had nothing to do with the original headline. Reporters almost NEVER write headlines, which you, in all your infinite wisdom about the mass media, should know.)

By: Robert

Robert — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:41:02 +0000

About the Jack Curry article – the current version on the New York Times web page has this title: “Giants’ Cleanup Hitter Is No Bonds, and Not Even a Slugger”. I’m not sure the columnists/writers actually make up the titles to their pieces. In fact, the piece doesn’t reflect the attitude of the title “Giants’ Cleanup Hitter Is No Bonds (That’s a Good Thing)” at all. It just observes that Molina is an improbable cleanup hitter. The Giants are getting more attention with the wild card thing and the trade deadline rapidly approaching. That the Giants are in the race at all with their weak offense is a legitimate story topic. My guess is the author didn’t come up with that title. Anyway, it’s been taken down and replaced with one that’s more relevant to the article’s content.

By: Tonus

Tonus — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:55:47 +0000

It will need to coincide with a change in attitude with respect to steroids. The general reaction is still of the knee-jerk variety. A steroid user is still represented as a guy who killed his co-worker in order to get a promotion that the co-worker was in line to receive.

With luck, the next 30 to 40 years will not only see the head-in-the-sand writers retiring, but also a change in how PEDs are viewed, along with an understanding that baseball players have always sought an edge, even when it wasn’t legal. Why is Barry Bonds (who is believed to have knowingly used steroids) a “cheater” who “disgraced himself and the game” yet Gaylord Perry (who admitted to throwing the spitball when it was against baseball’s rules) is a “cagey veteran” and “the ultimate competitor” who got voted into the Hall of Fame? Why aren’t writers asking for a portion of his wins to be ‘expunged’?

Oh, sorry. His kind of cheating was okay.

By: D. Aristophanes

D. Aristophanes — Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:20:55 +0000

I’m thinking James’ application of the 80-20 rule here may actually be lowballing the number of PED users in MLB.

By: John

John — Sun, 19 Jul 2009 02:27:46 +0000

That’s the second article, I was going to write about it extensively tomorrow. Thanks.

By: +mia

+mia — Sun, 19 Jul 2009 01:00:50 +0000

Thank you for that. Eloquent in its succinctness

By: Jim

Jim — Sat, 18 Jul 2009 19:53:06 +0000

Speaking of MLB and storoids, here is Bill James’ take, from an article he published on his web site the other day. John, I expect you will agree 100% with this:

“The “rule” against Performance Enhancing Drugs, if there was such a rule before 2002…was never agreed to by the players, who clearly and absolutely have a right to participate in the process of changing any and all rules to which they are subject. It was not included in any of the various rule books that define the conduct of the game from various perspectives. There was no process for enforcing such a rule. The punishments were draconian in theory and non-existent in fact.

It seems to me that, with the passage of time, more people will come to understand that the commissioner’s periodic spasms of self-righteousness do not constitute baseball law. It seems to me that the argument that it is cheating must ultimately collapse under the weight of carrying this great contradiction—that 80% of the players are cheating against the other 20% by violating some “rule” to which they never consented, which was never included in the rule books, and which for which there was no enforcement procedure. History is simply NOT going to see it that way.”

James also writes that it may take 30-40 years to reach this point, i.e., we will have to wait for the current generation of writers to retire. So hopefully justice and reason are on the way, although we may have a long wait until they finally arrive…

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…. Stupid is as stupid does » Nhan Images — Sat, 18 Jul 2009 19:44:03 +0000

[...] …. Stupid is as stupid does July 18, 2009 by admin Leave a reply » Two recent article involving steroids caught my eye, my attention, and drew my ire. The first one was in the NY Times , having to do with the attorneys in the Bonds case: …. Barry Bonds is at home, awaiting trial and hoping that a major league team will ask him to play again. The prosecutors overseeing his case have gone back to working on other investigations. And one of Bonds’s lead defense lawyers has spent time helping to determine who the prosecutors’ next boss will be. …. Whoever ev Original post by …. Stupid is as stupid does [...]