“Sabean was born under a lucky sign…his time has long past…needs to go before he cause any more harm.”

I didn’t know Feces was part of the Zodiac. I agree though, this turd needs to be flushed

The Giants throw a book of “Do, Don’t, What, and when” at their prospects and let them sink or swim. If they develop on their own, fine. If not, fuck it, they just go out and sign some q-rating dude like Alou, Finley, Alfonso, Renteria, Zito, Morris, Rowand, Vizquel, Johnson, Roberts or whatever, and call it all good. The turnstiles still turn, and the concessions still get sold and the advertising and sponsorship dollars continue to come off the printing press. Thats the “Giants Way” under Neukom, Baer, and Sabean. And if you don’t believe me, look at the last 5 years.

Under Ryan, (with credit to John Hart) the Rangers have implemented a systemic program of progress, promotion and reward that is all inclusive of both acquired talent and homegrown talent. There is a plan in place that follows the adage that the whole is greater the sum of its individual parts. Every player in the Ranger organization has a role and knows what that role is. (Think 49ers during the DeBartolo era) That is what Ryan brings to the table. Strong ass leadership, a good game plan, smart personnel and an organizational belief, dedication and most importantly, the implementation of that game plan.

This is obviously not something that the Giants have. Now the Giants may very well think they have that, but even if you have the talent to compete, if your players do not buy into your program 100 percent, you are not going to compete on any consistent basis, much less win any championships.

The extreme case of the opposite of this is the Washington Nationals. They have more offensive weapons than a lot of teams, yet they cannot even win 1/3 of their games. Obviously Bowden put a lot of non-fitting pieces together before he was forced out for allegedly taking kickbacks from Dominican baseball interests. And now they have saddled themselves with the ridiculous carnival that is going to be Scott Boras/Steven Strasburg.

At least the Giants have not fallen that far.

Understand the points about performance vs salary…or in other other words value. But, RJ is better than a D, and our bull pen is better than a B when comparing to other teams. Rowand is still putting up good numbers and Renteria…even though hitting .250+ is productive wisp. Winn needs to be more consistent, and you need to hold off on judging TI until he gets 200+ ab’s. He has made great adjustments on his swing…especially covering the low inside. You were all about rebuilding last year…be patient and give some of these kids a chance.

You’re spot on about the Gigantes organization with Sandoval. He needs to be given steady time at one position…3b. Sabean was born under a lucky sign…his time has long past…needs to go before he cause any more harm.

The Gigantes could…and should be better…but, I disagree with you on how bad you think they are. Hey, you got me watching these guys again…and they’re not nearly as boring as they once were…and definitely not as bad as you say.

I watch many of the other wild ccard teams play on a weekly basis…and that’s where I develop my opinions on the Gigantes and play-off chances.

We’ll see where it all stands in a month. The Nats have won three in a row against good teams…and that’s why they play the games.

It can be done.

The Rangers started turning everything around BEFORE he even got there. Jon Hart deserves most of the credit after his terrible earlier years.

Yeah. Anything can happen. But it won’t. You have to be good and lucky. The Giants are neither. They have two “A” starting pitchers two D starting pitchers, a B bullpen and a bunch of D position players, a D field manager and a D general manager still in charge of this mess. No way do these guys even break .500. Look at the schedule in August. And thats before Cain and Lincecum start to break down in September if not earlier from all the high stress innings put on them by the horrible defense, non-existent offense, and Bochy keeping them out there for in excess of a hundred pitches every game.

Insofar as the Yankee fans booing their team off the field? Fucking New York fans have always been classless asses and undeserving of the Yankees talent. Nevertheless, the Steinbrenners and Yankee fans and NY media are a perfect fit for each other. Three legged toilet stool of MLB The Mets are a perfect fit for New York. Steal a little of the transplanted Dodgers and Giants, claim you’re the real deal, and totally underwhelm and disappoint on an annual basis.

Anyway, to add to your happiness. Here’s a little side by side comparison in the upcoming Giants/Rangers series

Edgar Renteria .254 BA – .319 OBP and .639 OPS in 210 ABs

Omar Vizquel .323 BA – .354 OBP and .773 OPS in 62 ABs. And he’s their backup for a $1million per year vs. Sabean paying Renteria $18million over two years!

The Giants cleanup hitter Bengie Molina ($6.5Million has an OBP of .270 and OPS of .716 for fucks sake.

The Rangers cleanup hitter is Nelson Cruz Jr whom the Rangers are paying $408,000, has an OBP of .345 and an OPS of .913

And their fourth outfielder? Andruw Jones; whom they are paying $500,000. And what is Andruw Jones doing for them lately?

115 ABs .355 OBP and an 859 OPS

And the fucking Giants don’t even know who their 3rd outfielder is, let alone their fourth.

The Rangers are turning it around because they brought in Nolan Ryan to fix things. A baseball guy. A tough baseball guy who doesn’t give a shit what people think about him. A tough baseball guy who like Randy Johnson besides being talented, outworked, outhustled, and outhought his way to success over an extended period of time. Not a media dork and an arrogant Florida con artist who coached two years at a DII college before becoming a Yankee Scout. He signed Derek Jeter, Mariano Rivera, Andy Pettite JT Snow in the early nineties and hasn’t done anything out of the ordinary since.

That is not going to get it done.

OK, end of encomium, and back to your regularly scheduled programming.

Check out all the wild card pretenders…it’s anybody’s for the taking…87 wins probably takes it. At this point…there are a lot of avg to poor teams in both leagues.

The Yanks lose 2 of 3 at home to the Nats. Got shut out and booed off the field the last couple innings yesterday. Go figure.

My game mpment was summed up by the two white trashy chicks next to me. Both were dressed in Lincecum gear (lots of “Let’s go Timmy”) and were fans (nice to see) at the level that they really did cheer every routine play (Ugh! Like the routine fly to CF and when the balls caught they exhale like they’re actually saddened that it wasn’t a home run). So, in the 8th, one thought, just for a second, that the team was rallying. Angels pitching change. Giants feeling the tension/excitement building begin to play Baba O’Reilly to get things really moving. WTC#1 looks to WTC#2 and says, “hey, this is that CSI song.” Ahh…I love this country.