Human arm bones aren’t knitted at 23 years?
Link please.

They went too long with him in that game with an eye towards marketing the team in 09.
The Brewers will ride CC hard because he’s gonna die under someone else’s saddle next year. Timmy’s here thru 2012.

if you watch timmy’s delivery, his arm is the least of his worries, as he uses it like a slingshot

the worries are more about his back

and if i were his agent, i wouldnt sign a multi-year either

sabean and peter the pink effed this org but good with the zito signing…no way can this team sign timmy for less than what zito got, and of course he will test the waters

i see the chances of keeping lincecum past 2012 to be around 40 percent…which is sad, because of a pitcher of his quality comes once in a lifetime

and yes…he deserves the cy young

but so did schmidt…

This from Andrew Baggarly–a guy I don’t always agree with, but a guy who is fair and consistent, and he reports facts as facts, and opinions as opinions.
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Sabean said he was not disappointed to hear that Tim Lincecum’s agent is not keen on discussing a multiyear contract.

“Why would we be?” Sabean said. “The goal is to go year to year. It’s not something I’ve thought about.”

The Giants have signed Matt Cain and Noah Lowry to multiyear deals in recent seasons, providing cost certainty for the club. Team officials had made preliminary contact with agent Rick Thurman about a similar deal for Lincecum.

But during the All-Star break, Thurman said he probably will negotiate one-year contracts through Lincecum’s arbitration years. The right-hander can’t become a free agent until after the 2012 season.”

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Speaking for myself, I’m not say the Giants are abusing or misusing Timmy per se. My point is simply that high pitch counts can, do and will accelerate the onset of arm and tissue breakdown. In the playoffs or the heat of a pennant drive, pitch count has to be weighted against the cost of victory of course. With a youngster whose bones haven’t even completely knitted yet, pitching for a horrible team in meaningless games, the question you have to ask yourself is simply this: For whom and for why?

Its akin to racing 2 year old thoroughbreds. An endeavor akin to Russian Roulette, driven solely and exclusively for financial remuneration.

Tim clearly deserves the award, and I do hope he gets it. But I have no expectations of media fairness, insight or rational thinking, so if he doesn’t get it, I won’t be upset. We’ll still have the best pitcher on our team. I agree with +mia, I think the Giants are “C.C.-ing” him because they expect him to depart at the first free agent window (2012?). Will we try to pull off a Johan Santana-type trade with him before that time? If you were Lincecum, would you feel the SFG’s give you the best chance to pitch in a World Series and win a ring?

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/pitching?league=nl

And conclude that anyone else but Lincecum deserves to win. That’s just crazy. Not to mention that he had a string of 5 no decisions with an ERA around 1.3 during that stretch. For a good team, he’d probably end up with 25 wins or so.

It is because of such things as awards and recognition from and by media respectively, that we should stop and consider the idiotic decisions made my these folks. Joe Jackson and Pete Rose are not in the Hall of Fame. Harry Carey and Bowie Kuhn are.

Groucho Marx said it perfectly: I don’t care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members.

Baseball does reflect other aspects of American Culture as well. As the veracity of msm (mainstream media) has come to be less and less credible, so has the integrity of baseball media as personal agendas cultural ideology have replaced content, insight, and context. The Bob Costas’ Mike Lupica’s, Tom Verducci’s, Jim Romes, Bruce Jenkins’ and the rest of the self-anointed and self-appointed have made cynics out of hundreds of thousands of sports fans, and helped speed the retardation process of millions of others.

In a sentence: Lincecum’s season is the best I have personally witnessed from a Giants pitcher in my entire lifetime. (Sorry Juan, Timmy has the punchouts.) His diminuative size makes his domination even more remarkable.

And. His pitch counts will come back and bite him. Perhaps not as hard as it might somebody else, because of his excellent balance and extraoridinary DNA, but it will. Its just a matter of when. Anybody with a background in Biomechanics, Kinesiology or related fields can tell you this and provide you with documentation and paper after paper that high pitch counts are a bad thing. The disagreement is about the when and where the breakdown will occur. Not if it will occur. My understanding is that Timmy’s folks don’t want a long-term deal with the Giants right now. If that is the case, it wouldn’t surprise me to learn that theyplan on “CC-ing” him right up to his free agency. As in the Brewers riding CC Sabathia as hard as they can since he’s a free agent this year and they are not going to spend the kind of money the market is going to dictate he is worth.

Basically, I’m with John. Lincecum is far and away the best pitcher in the N.L. this year. Not only his stats, but his won loss percentage is incredible. Win totals can be taken out of context. But not in this case. Lincecum is the anti-Zito. The won loss totals for both of these guys are the punctuation marks of their relative worth and value and performance and size of their balls for that matter too. Lincecum 17-3. Zito 9-16, or 9-17 if not for Pablo Sandoval. As far as I am concerned Lincecum’s win total for this collection of maggots, gerbils, and human refuse rescued them from a certain 100 loss season. Since 2003, the presence of, first Bonds, and now Tim Lincecum has allowed the Giants to disguise the fact that they are the worst team in MLB along with the Expos. Pathetic. So, yeah, wins mean something. And I’ll stack up Lincecum’s 17 wins against Webb’s 20 anytime, anyplace. Lincecum’s wins give the Giants credibility. Webb’s inability to stop his team’s bleeding, took away most of the credibility the Dbacks had as a playoff contender. In his case, 20 was just a number.