It’s a common management problem in all arenas to take a huge asset and exploit it to the point of diminishing returns. Thus, many “proven” players to support the asset, and very little devoted to prospects (risk) – conservatism in the environment of having a cash cow. Most such situations include a blindness that their money-maker situation might have a sell-by date. Then when that happens, not to get even more too silly, you shoot the cow – as they have done. Of course, what follows is an awful organization – in the real world, those businesses go under.

Anyways, losing the managing owner almost always results in a new GM – 9 times out of 10. New broom sweeps clean, piss in the corners, etc etc etc. The GM is always the owner’s “boy”. Sabean won’t last a year once Magowan is gone.

It’s ludicrous to claim that Magowan and partners just willy-nilly threw their money away to do MLB some kind of favor. Get real. No-one who’s that much of a madman even has $100 million.

And LURIE backed out of the deal with Tampa Bay, on the morning the team was to be sold.

And how many teams have built new stadiums in the last 15 years that weren’t municipal facilities, which has been well documented by Baseball Prospectus as screwing a city out of money? And oh yes, where the ballpark is was a fine fine neighorhood – just people beating down the doors to be there.

Do you find outrage at the Bonds situation not worth raving about? Perhaps protesting ludicrous injustice is a positive quality? You in turn accuse this site of being too negative and then of being too pandering. Maybe it’s neither.

Sounds like you’re just posting here to talk shit at John – “fellating” huh? I can tell the level of literacy and intelligence involved. This is a great site, with intelligent writing – don’t post leud nonsense just to be contrary and grind an axe.

It’s pretty clear from this article, written in 1992, that the league did NOT NOT NOT want the Giants to move and had precedent for blocking the move. Lurie had already agreed to sell the team. Magowan was NOT NOT NOT a savior. He was just one of many who were willing to make an investment to keep the team here.

Now, what did I say:

He (Magowan) did not stop the team from leaving. The move was blocked by the MLB owners/commish in order to keep the team in San Francisco (which is better for the league, apparently). Magowan was just one among a group of investors who was willing to pop some $$ in and take the team from Lurie. He is also the one willing to be the leading man, though he never had the most shares of the team.

Also…I used to write for your site, in fact. The experiment never worked out very well, but IIRC I wrote the longest of the initial seven that you invited.

So…Fellating Magown – check
Perpetuating rumors – check
Misguided – my own opinion. Your tone on the site is so full of anger nowadays I often question why I come at all. I constantly have to remind myself that the state of the Giants is a bitter pill and that before things turned into shitsville this was my favorite site.

So, please remember…Magowan DID NOT save the Giants from leaving San Francisco.

he wouldnt have been surrounded by “replacement” players….bonds shouldnt have either

the fact remains…sabean has done a piss poor job at development, and the brain trust should have seen that years ago

they should also have seen the flaws in the “draft only pitchers” philosophy…but they didnt

but getting rid of peter wont solve most of this orgs problems

And anyway, in the “lack of championship” category, everyone knows the playoffs are a crapshoot; and, the maybes could be endless – a better setup man than Rodriguez when Robb Nen’s arm was falling off? That one game to replay in Atlanta? Switching Kent and Bonds in the batting order? Who the hell knows? Didn’t virtually everyone see Felipe Alou as an improvement at the time? Maybe he was too old school, or just too old, or overrated because the Expos weren’t supposed to win – but still, I really doubt there were too many wailings about the choice at the time.

We got a contender for 6-odd years. That, in modern parlance, is a dynasty. Or 10 and 5 as Jay T says – same point. One has to realize that for the current team to be a contender, you’d have to chop off five wins for the last X number of years. So instead of Durham, Alfonzo etc etc the team should have done what? What they’re doing now, except we would have already been bitching for the last few years. “Should have signed Vlad!” – right, and we would have one superstar surrounded by replacement level guys – sounds familiar?

soon to be released in theaters is the documentary, “bigger, stronger, faster”, about the hypocracy of the steroids debate

http://www.firejoemorgan.com/2008/05/boogeymanness-obp.html

Man, these guys are my new heroes.