My point is that the most pathetic thing here is Selig and the owners aren’t even good at avarice! By trying to f*ck the players over, they’ve f*cked themselves over worse. No matter what one’s attitude is about steroids, you’re right – they screwed up, got lucky or looked the other way, and then screwed that up too.

I thought for a long time that Bonds was going to be the fall guy, and that was the owners’ plan… but it more and more looks like it’s not going to turn out that way.

There’s nothing more pathetic than a lousy crook. If Selig was in the mob, they’d be dragging the east river for him.

Don’t be surprised to see this downhill rolling shit ball gathering speed and end up in Magowan’s and Sabean’s lap. All of it. This entire mess could have been avoided if science, an honest search for truth, and the well-being of the sport as well as the business of baseball had been at the forefront. But no. What we got was owner sanctioned expediency and don’t ask, don’t tell PED policy, impatient greed, as a quick fix to declining attendance brought about by their own stupid handling of the 1994-95 lockout. Billionaires vs Millionaires.

And so the rodent-like billionaires, cowering in the glare of congressional and MSM torches, scurry into the shadows, ridiculing and blaming the workforce for their own slimy greedy purposes, as they flee the scene.

Couple of things.

Nobody every paid a nickel to watch an owner. Nobody every paid a nickel to watch some jackass in the MSM sit in an empty stadium. Of course if it wasn’t for Barry Bonds, fans would be flocking to watch MSM watching owners watching an empty stadium.

BTW, someone (John?) must have made the argument that HGH should be considered a supplement. As you age, it depletes. Replenishing to “average levels” is supplementation, not steroid raging. Distinctions.

Please. I’ve supplemented my own hormone replacement regimen with supplements to help stimulate HGH growth. Why? First, the only real “source” of HGH is cadaver HGH which is extremely expensive. Second, it improves my quality of life. Bottom line, if I could afford it would I buy it. No shit Sherlock!

Excuse me for not doing my homework by reading every-freakin’-bodies 2 cents from “Around the Horn” (baaaad show) to ground my comments. There just comments and opinions and we all know about those and assholes.

didnt they get caught receiving shipments of hgh???

and the double standard continues

both films are a commercial for the postive results to be gained from hgh

sly is friggin 61…and he looks better than most 40 year olds

im sorry, put me on hgh right now

Bill James wrote a good essay called “The Death of Common Sense”, which I wish I could reproduce. In any case, part of it is that all of our society has become so mired in minutiea that the larger truths have gone by the wayside. Everything is technically illegal, and I believe that the media will latch onto ANYTHING that produces controversy. And that’s the yardstick, how much fuss gets stirred up.

The column make a good point, one I’ve slowly become less cynical about – Selig so massively blew it it’s incredible. If baseball was less than an enormous multi-billion dollar institution, he would have killed it by now. Throwing your productive labor to the wolves does no one any good in any business, and his (and the owners) petty attitude towards the players is very self-destructive. He should have, 5 years ago and continuing until now, stood up and said “fuck you, we have a labor agreement, we stand by our game, we’re working cooperatively with the union and it’s going great, steroids will be eradicated within a very few years, it’s none of your damn business” and said it again and again and again.

So much for “acting in the best interests of the game”.

Why would increasing cost matter when the reason why players take them is largely monetary gain? The difference in income between a player who is stuck in the minor leagues and a player who makes it into the big leagues is huge! The average salary in the MLB is several million dollars a year… SEVERAL MILLION, which is at least an order of magnitude more than minor league players make (barring signing bonuses). Unless the PED regimens cost upwards of 50k dollars, I don’t think we’ll see that big of a drop off, even among minor leaguers.

Besides, once in the major leagues, the difference between a 15HR season and a 40HR season (if PEDs can even do that), is probably on the order of 5-6M dollars per year, so even a regimen that costs 100s of thousands of dollars is unlikely to reduce demand greatly.

It’s all a matter of opportunity costs and motivation.

Exactly.

Course alcohol is legal, with incredibly harmful side effects that can and several times daily does end in death for non-users and users alike, very addictive, not scheduled, and promoted by all sports.