Between Curt Schilling’s noticably uninformed ramblings, and the suddenly awake NY Times editorial staff, the recent blather about our “scandal” has really become tiresome. Here’s Schilling, telling us that Clemens should give back his Cy Young awards unless he can clear his name:
…. as a fan my thought is that Roger will find a way in short order to organize a legal team to guarantee a retraction of the allegations made, a public apology is made, and his name is completely cleared. If he doesn’t do that then there aren’t many options as a fan for me other than to believe his career 192 wins and 3 Cy Youngs he won prior to 1997 were the end. From that point on the numbers were attained through using PED’s. Just like I stated about Jose, if that is the case with Roger, the 4 Cy Youngs should go to the rightful winners and the numbers should go away if he cannot refute the accusations.
Yeah, thanks for the thoughtful and unasked for comments, there, Curt. I guess painkilling shots and pills must not be performance enhancing to you, eh? I guess a pill or shot that allows you to play through injury and pain isn’t quite the same as a pill or a shot that allows another player to workout and train through pain. I guess you haven’t considered that it is likely that one or more of your teammates on the Red Sox last year, or in ‘04 used some form of PED’s. You think you’re ready to give back your rings? How about your ‘01 championship with the D’Backs? Somebody on your team had to have been using something, no?
Oh, that’s right. No one’s accused anyone directly. That must be why you have reserved your comments for Bonds and Clemens. Because they happened to get caught. Good thinking. You wouldn’t want to be called out for selectively criticizing anyone, would you?
Meanwhile, over at the newspaper that once was, we are reminded that being a member of the BBWAA is not like being a member of MENSA:
…. In a survey of 90 veteran baseball writers who vote on player inductions, neither Bonds nor Clemens garnered the 75 percent that is required to gain entry into the Hall.
…. To Bill Conlin of The Philadelphia Daily News, Bonds and Clemens are the “Tainted Tandem.” To Paul Sullivan of The Chicago Tribune, they are “weasels.” To Drew Sharp of The Detroit Free Press, they are “pariahs.” To others, they are cheaters who should only enter the Hall by paying admission.
“I think these guys have stained the game, and I’m not in the mood to forgive and forget,” Hal Bock of The Associated Press said. “I prefer everyone on a level playing field. Their actions changed that.”
How’s that for revisionist? Amphetamines were commonplace for decades, virtually every “hero” these “writers” grew up worshipping used them; but Clemens and Bonds are somehow deserving of a more focused scorn.
What a disgrace, watching these assholes falling all over themselves in their bold-faced efforts to show everyone who really cares about integrity, who is really committed to saving the children.
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Of course, this would make the HOF a complete joke. Let’s see, the hall would not include the…
- All time hits leader
- All time HR leader
- Single season HR record
- Most MVP awards
- Most Cy Young awards
- Only player to reach 400/400
- Only player to reach 500/500
And I’m sure a bunch of other stats. The idea that the hall is some sacred club of inclusion is ridiculous, when it’s real purpose should be to document the history of the game. I guess my point is, if these guys aren’t in, then who really gives a shit about the hall of fame anyway?
I’ll worry about what the writers do when the time comes. Considering how often I read their opinions - the bloggers are much more interesting and knowledgeable - I doubt I’ll care too much. The Hall becomes fraudulent on its face if Bonds isn’t elected first ballot.
That’s another thing about the HOF that bugs the crap out of me. All of this first ballot vs. second ballot bullshit. Really, a player is either in or he isn’t, who gives a shit about the details? Talk about pretentious.
the hof became a joke when the wife of a white owner from the negro leagues was elected and buck o’neil was not
it became a travesty when they cancelled the showing of bull durham because of the politics of two of the stars
if bonds and clemens dont get elected, then gaylord perry needs to be removed…and there is a heck of alot more evidence of perry cheating then there is in regards clemens and bonds…my god, the man wrote a book about it
as for schill….the self annointed pope of the mlb, the bible thumping, war loving, republican kiss assing prick…wish that fuck would shut his fat mouth….or need we bring up the paint on the sock thing again?
Don’t forget abolishing Ty Cobb, who was a 10x the asshole Bonds has ever been, AND he allegedly pistol whipped a man to death in the streets. Not to mention that he and Tris Speaker both were involved with betting and fixing games but were given a reprieve by Commissioner Landis because of lack of evidence.
The best thing (and maybe only good thing) about the Mitchell report is listening to John talk about it. John, it’s so nice to have you pissed again!
Quote prediction:
If Bonds doesn’t make it into the hall and they ask him about it, I guarantee you he will say something like this… “Hall of Fame? I’m more famous than half those guys put together.” And of course he’d be correct.