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		<title>By: Pages tagged "sanctimonious"</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 08:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: marc</title>
		<link>http://www.onlybaseballmatters.com/archives/2007/12/19/sanctimonious/comment-page-1/#comment-13378</link>
		<dc:creator>marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 04:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if that&#039;s all it&#039;s really about.. a bargaining chip for the owners. How sad. I agree with every post here. I also wanted to say, having seen the quote, probably here from Bonds about baseball being entertainment... now, I worship at the altar of baseball, but it is entertainment. And yet our culture romanticizes Dylan Thomas for drinking himself to death, Keith Richards for his longtime substance abuse - these are all examples of how we romanticize our heroes. I have to assume as well that if Babe Ruth was just a church-going, quiet guy, he wouldn&#039;t be quite the American historical legend that he is today. So how is it really that ballplayers are different? Ultimately, as I know i&#039;m the millionth to say, the sheer silliness of all this is what is most amazing and appalling. How in any possible way is this an issue of major concern and import?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if that&#8217;s all it&#8217;s really about.. a bargaining chip for the owners. How sad. I agree with every post here. I also wanted to say, having seen the quote, probably here from Bonds about baseball being entertainment&#8230; now, I worship at the altar of baseball, but it is entertainment. And yet our culture romanticizes Dylan Thomas for drinking himself to death, Keith Richards for his longtime substance abuse &#8211; these are all examples of how we romanticize our heroes. I have to assume as well that if Babe Ruth was just a church-going, quiet guy, he wouldn&#8217;t be quite the American historical legend that he is today. So how is it really that ballplayers are different? Ultimately, as I know i&#8217;m the millionth to say, the sheer silliness of all this is what is most amazing and appalling. How in any possible way is this an issue of major concern and import?</p>
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		<title>By: uncle joe mccarthy</title>
		<link>http://www.onlybaseballmatters.com/archives/2007/12/19/sanctimonious/comment-page-1/#comment-13361</link>
		<dc:creator>uncle joe mccarthy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 03:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>here is the saddest thing...while &quot;fans&quot; and the protectors of the sport decry ped&#039;s....BASEBALL HAS MADE MORE MONEY DURING THE ROID YEARS THAN ANY TIME IN THE PAST

face facts people...we love it when our sports gods juice it up</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here is the saddest thing&#8230;while &#8220;fans&#8221; and the protectors of the sport decry ped&#8217;s&#8230;.BASEBALL HAS MADE MORE MONEY DURING THE ROID YEARS THAN ANY TIME IN THE PAST</p>
<p>face facts people&#8230;we love it when our sports gods juice it up</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
		<link>http://www.onlybaseballmatters.com/archives/2007/12/19/sanctimonious/comment-page-1/#comment-13355</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 03:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess, if one could, if they were sanctimonious enough, make a case that recoviering from any injury is &#039;cheating.&#039;  tommy John surgery?  Unnatural = cheating.  Arthroscopic surgery? Unnatural = cheating.  Maybe the rule should be, play til you&#039;re in jured.  Once injured you&#039;re forced from the game.
  Oh, and no weight training - too hard to regulate - and different players benefit/particpate at different rates/levels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess, if one could, if they were sanctimonious enough, make a case that recoviering from any injury is &#8216;cheating.&#8217;  tommy John surgery?  Unnatural = cheating.  Arthroscopic surgery? Unnatural = cheating.  Maybe the rule should be, play til you&#8217;re in jured.  Once injured you&#8217;re forced from the game.<br />
  Oh, and no weight training &#8211; too hard to regulate &#8211; and different players benefit/particpate at different rates/levels.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay T.</title>
		<link>http://www.onlybaseballmatters.com/archives/2007/12/19/sanctimonious/comment-page-1/#comment-13177</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 22:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On another note, it&#039;s really sad to see HGH get lumped in with steroids.  Yes, steroids certainly have great medical uses when applied correctly, but when it comes to healing HGH is actually a magnificent drug that doesn&#039;t deserve to have its name dragged through the PED mud.  If a player used HGH to recover from an injury (like Pettite claims and I believe him) I really don&#039;t see anything wrong with that whatsoever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On another note, it&#8217;s really sad to see HGH get lumped in with steroids.  Yes, steroids certainly have great medical uses when applied correctly, but when it comes to healing HGH is actually a magnificent drug that doesn&#8217;t deserve to have its name dragged through the PED mud.  If a player used HGH to recover from an injury (like Pettite claims and I believe him) I really don&#8217;t see anything wrong with that whatsoever.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay T.</title>
		<link>http://www.onlybaseballmatters.com/archives/2007/12/19/sanctimonious/comment-page-1/#comment-13173</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 22:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post.  I especially appreciate this part...

&quot;It is this climate of sanctimonious, ill-informed gibberish that allows Peter Gammons to call Brian McNamee a “sewer rat” for coming clean about Clemens and Pettitte, while at the same time, continue to question the motives of Greg Anderson for not doing so about Bonds.&quot;

No kidding! Talk about a complete contradiction.  I hate to play the race card, but it very much feels like Clemens&#039; trainer is being treated like a dog because he came clean about a good-old white boy, while Anderson is despised for not coming clean about that uppity black man Bonds.  I mean, it&#039;s not even a comparison, it&#039;s the EXACT same scenario, so to treat them so differently is just ridiculous and pretty much indefensible.  Is it partly because Bonds isn&#039;t such a nice guy?  I&#039;m sure it is on some level, but to treat the same situation so differently reeks of underlying racism.  And I&#039;m a white guy saying this, so I can&#039;t even imagine how pissed I would be if I was black.

Question: when you try to become a sportswriter, is there an unwritten prerequisite that you must be an absolute wind bag?  Given that national coverage, the sheer lack of original, thoughtful responses is stunning.  There are some, but they are few and far between.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.  I especially appreciate this part&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;It is this climate of sanctimonious, ill-informed gibberish that allows Peter Gammons to call Brian McNamee a “sewer rat” for coming clean about Clemens and Pettitte, while at the same time, continue to question the motives of Greg Anderson for not doing so about Bonds.&#8221;</p>
<p>No kidding! Talk about a complete contradiction.  I hate to play the race card, but it very much feels like Clemens&#8217; trainer is being treated like a dog because he came clean about a good-old white boy, while Anderson is despised for not coming clean about that uppity black man Bonds.  I mean, it&#8217;s not even a comparison, it&#8217;s the EXACT same scenario, so to treat them so differently is just ridiculous and pretty much indefensible.  Is it partly because Bonds isn&#8217;t such a nice guy?  I&#8217;m sure it is on some level, but to treat the same situation so differently reeks of underlying racism.  And I&#8217;m a white guy saying this, so I can&#8217;t even imagine how pissed I would be if I was black.</p>
<p>Question: when you try to become a sportswriter, is there an unwritten prerequisite that you must be an absolute wind bag?  Given that national coverage, the sheer lack of original, thoughtful responses is stunning.  There are some, but they are few and far between.</p>
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		<title>By: Stalky</title>
		<link>http://www.onlybaseballmatters.com/archives/2007/12/19/sanctimonious/comment-page-1/#comment-13147</link>
		<dc:creator>Stalky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not only are the front offices et al getting a pass, the Mitchell report will ultimately be used to diminsh the power of the player&#039;s association. The reason, in my mind, that Selig and his cronies listed players (while ownership hid behind the anonymity of their titles) and have started talking about reopening the CBA and implementing the suggestions from Mitchell&#039;s group is that they know that the player&#039;s association will want to examine the report, digest it and then negotiate a compromise. This is par for the course with the baseball suits, they&#039;ve never copped to the tacit endorsement of the steriod era. They even ran an ad campaign around it- &#039;Chicks dig the long ball&#039;. But they are content to let players and the player&#039;s association twist in the wind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only are the front offices et al getting a pass, the Mitchell report will ultimately be used to diminsh the power of the player&#8217;s association. The reason, in my mind, that Selig and his cronies listed players (while ownership hid behind the anonymity of their titles) and have started talking about reopening the CBA and implementing the suggestions from Mitchell&#8217;s group is that they know that the player&#8217;s association will want to examine the report, digest it and then negotiate a compromise. This is par for the course with the baseball suits, they&#8217;ve never copped to the tacit endorsement of the steriod era. They even ran an ad campaign around it- &#8216;Chicks dig the long ball&#8217;. But they are content to let players and the player&#8217;s association twist in the wind.</p>
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		<title>By: Shake Your Money Maker! &#187; Blog Archive &#187; …. Sanctimonious?</title>
		<link>http://www.onlybaseballmatters.com/archives/2007/12/19/sanctimonious/comment-page-1/#comment-13133</link>
		<dc:creator>Shake Your Money Maker! &#187; Blog Archive &#187; …. Sanctimonious?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mark O'Connor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark O'Connor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had arthroscopic surgery to repair a torn meniscus.  Man, I wish I had a &quot;cartilage-growing&quot; drug!  Got a chunk of that irreplaceable tissue cut off and it ain&#039;t growing back.  Sure would help my skiing and my slo-pitch softball.  But seriously, another excellent post here at OBM.  My sentiments exactly.  I&#039;m still amazed by the number of people--none who are sports fans--who have an &quot;opinion&quot; about Bonds, Clemens, Marion Jones, PEDs, &#039;roids, you name it.  I direct them here when I get hoarse from arguing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had arthroscopic surgery to repair a torn meniscus.  Man, I wish I had a &#8220;cartilage-growing&#8221; drug!  Got a chunk of that irreplaceable tissue cut off and it ain&#8217;t growing back.  Sure would help my skiing and my slo-pitch softball.  But seriously, another excellent post here at OBM.  My sentiments exactly.  I&#8217;m still amazed by the number of people&#8211;none who are sports fans&#8211;who have an &#8220;opinion&#8221; about Bonds, Clemens, Marion Jones, PEDs, &#8216;roids, you name it.  I direct them here when I get hoarse from arguing.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 06:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I confess.  I am a criminal.  If I held any records, I would give them back.  I had a sports caused injury.  Actually, I had a very bad race car accident and tore virtually every bit of soft tissue in my neck.  When it &#039;healed&#039; there were miles and miles of scar tissue.  And I was beset with excuciating muscle spasms.  My co-conspirator, my doctor, gave me injections of steroids.  They both relieved the never ending pain and allowed me to under go physical therapy, which, ultimately allowed the scar tissue to be stretched into a managable state.
  I realize now, after reading Lupica and Gammons and, and, and ESPN, that what I did was criminal.  I am sure that committing suicied, which seemed like a very real solution, would have been far more ethical.  And far more comfortable for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I confess.  I am a criminal.  If I held any records, I would give them back.  I had a sports caused injury.  Actually, I had a very bad race car accident and tore virtually every bit of soft tissue in my neck.  When it &#8216;healed&#8217; there were miles and miles of scar tissue.  And I was beset with excuciating muscle spasms.  My co-conspirator, my doctor, gave me injections of steroids.  They both relieved the never ending pain and allowed me to under go physical therapy, which, ultimately allowed the scar tissue to be stretched into a managable state.<br />
  I realize now, after reading Lupica and Gammons and, and, and ESPN, that what I did was criminal.  I am sure that committing suicied, which seemed like a very real solution, would have been far more ethical.  And far more comfortable for them.</p>
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