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		<title>By: Buy Impulse Training Systems</title>
		<link>http://www.onlybaseballmatters.com/archives/2007/12/13/seventh-heaven-4/comment-page-1/#comment-36962</link>
		<dc:creator>Buy Impulse Training Systems</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 11:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very helpful. Thanks. Can’t wait to see more from this site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very helpful. Thanks. Can’t wait to see more from this site.</p>
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		<title>By: Rockets tickets</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rockets tickets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 10:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It sounds good! I do agree here that heroes in this story are the Players who performed real.&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.myticketin.com/Event.aspx?EventID=7640&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Rockets tickets&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds good! I do agree here that heroes in this story are the Players who performed real.<a href="http://www.myticketin.com/Event.aspx?EventID=7640" rel="nofollow">Rockets tickets</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jon Swift</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Swift</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;When Steroids Are Banned, Only Cheaters Have Them...&lt;/strong&gt;

The real heroes in this story are the players who were not afraid to take steroids because of some old-fashioned notion of fair play....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>When Steroids Are Banned, Only Cheaters Have Them&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>The real heroes in this story are the players who were not afraid to take steroids because of some old-fashioned notion of fair play&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Baseball News, Fantasy Baseball, Baseball Clubs &#187; …. Seventh Heaven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baseball News, Fantasy Baseball, Baseball Clubs &#187; …. Seventh Heaven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] e chigliak &lt;info@federalbaseball.com&gt; created a sweet baseball article today.Here&#8217;s a mini excerpt.according to Sean Forman, of baseball-reference.com’s amazing play index, 5148 players have made it into at least one major league box score since 1985, the year Radomski went to work for the Mets. So that means that precisely 1.67 &#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] e chigliak &amp;lt;info@federalbaseball.com&amp;gt; created a sweet baseball article today.Here&#8217;s a mini excerpt.according to Sean Forman, of baseball-reference.com’s amazing play index, 5148 players have made it into at least one major league box score since 1985, the year Radomski went to work for the Mets. So that means that precisely 1.67 &#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: uncle joe mccarthy</title>
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		<dc:creator>uncle joe mccarthy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>please, go to foxsports.com and see that both kriegle and rosenthal still dont get it

the fact remains, that these high and mighty protectors of the faith did nothing when the roids issue was first being talked about.

they all continue to look at baseball being the only pure sport, despite evidence to the contrary

the sport has never been pure</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>please, go to foxsports.com and see that both kriegle and rosenthal still dont get it</p>
<p>the fact remains, that these high and mighty protectors of the faith did nothing when the roids issue was first being talked about.</p>
<p>they all continue to look at baseball being the only pure sport, despite evidence to the contrary</p>
<p>the sport has never been pure</p>
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		<title>By: Hobbes2d</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hobbes2d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 18:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its sad, I pretty much expected Clemens would get a free pass. That&#039;s the world we live in, I guess. Pretty pathetic really. Jason Giambi says I&#039;m sorry but doesn&#039;t say for what. But even with that everybody knows what he meant, and now people go on like he didn&#039;t really do anything wrong. Whereas had Bonds actually done the same as Giambi, the media and idiot public would be turning him into a bigger form of a living Satan then they already have done over the past 5 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its sad, I pretty much expected Clemens would get a free pass. That&#8217;s the world we live in, I guess. Pretty pathetic really. Jason Giambi says I&#8217;m sorry but doesn&#8217;t say for what. But even with that everybody knows what he meant, and now people go on like he didn&#8217;t really do anything wrong. Whereas had Bonds actually done the same as Giambi, the media and idiot public would be turning him into a bigger form of a living Satan then they already have done over the past 5 years.</p>
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		<title>By: +mia</title>
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		<dc:creator>+mia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know you were one of the ones who disagreed with me back in 2005 when I was attempting to fathom the reason that so many people who were not even baseball fans could muster up so much hatred for a man they did not now, concerning a complex sports medicine issue they knew little, if anything about.  It was not so obvious then as it is now.  Awesome of you to re-evaluate your opinions. You have my respect for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know you were one of the ones who disagreed with me back in 2005 when I was attempting to fathom the reason that so many people who were not even baseball fans could muster up so much hatred for a man they did not now, concerning a complex sports medicine issue they knew little, if anything about.  It was not so obvious then as it is now.  Awesome of you to re-evaluate your opinions. You have my respect for that.</p>
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		<title>By: +mia</title>
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		<dc:creator>+mia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John once again has exposed the sham that is the power structure of MLB.  The Mitchell Report and the totally predictable blather from both the broadcast and print media, and others, is driven by envy, elitism, and self-referenced, self-righteousness. Essentially people without, or people who pay no attention to, a moral compass at worst, or a sense of logic and proportion at best. 

The dichotomy is that OBM has been extremely consistent with its observations and conclusions during the entire alleged steroids era.  This comes not so much from clairvoyance nor some kind of Einstein-like scientific insight, but rather from the observations of an individual who follows the road map of a consistent and viable life-ethic and belief system. In doing so, he has found that difficult and &quot;unconventional&quot; as that may seem according to pop culture, it is the best and surest way to arrive at one&#039;s destination.  Accordingly, when watching MLB owners and Mass Media locked in a death dance of bullshit, backstabbing, and Bonds-hating, it comes as no surprise that  we end up with is a 304 page waste of paper that took over a year and millions of dollars in the making on one hand. And a straightforward essay that exposes all the fakers who contributed to this affront to one&#039;s intelligence. 

Not surprisingly, elitists in mass media and elsewhere, reveal themselves to be as vindictive, hateful, superstitious and small-minded as their predecessors in 17th century Salem Massachusetts.  They continue to slime Barry Bonds with hardly any of what could be reasonably passable pseudo-evidence.  No testimony against him by other than a discredited former girl friend.  Yet these same freaks  seek to exonerate and excuse Roger Clemens in spite of an abundance of the so-called pseudo evidence put forth in Mitchell&#039;s Report.  The accusations against Bonds in this report are as mentioned previously, a  rehash of the Fanny-Wadda, Williams Fairy Tale.  

The report was a farce. John did a masterful job of breaking down the pieces and putting them into the context of the real picture. A morally bankrupt sports media and a vacuous, insipid greedy Commissioner.  The two have relentlessly sought to destroy the players union, discredit player agents&#039;, and dehumanize players.  And until the day, fans understand that dynamic, they will continue to wonder why players do not for the most part, cozy up to media, fans, and the general public.  Or when they do speak, it is in bland cliches in an atmosphere of mistrust and barely tolerable antipathy.  It is an adversary relationship.  And it is going to get a lot worse. Media and the Commissioner and the scurrilous player-hating Mitchell have sought to slander ALL of the players through insinuation and out and out misrepresentation through this whole process. 

And lost in all of it was any serious discussion of Sports Medicine which is where this all should have been focused in the first place.  Ridiculous people for ridiculous times. Fools. All of them.  How ironic that the people who slime the game are people who cannot play it.  That is the simple truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John once again has exposed the sham that is the power structure of MLB.  The Mitchell Report and the totally predictable blather from both the broadcast and print media, and others, is driven by envy, elitism, and self-referenced, self-righteousness. Essentially people without, or people who pay no attention to, a moral compass at worst, or a sense of logic and proportion at best. </p>
<p>The dichotomy is that OBM has been extremely consistent with its observations and conclusions during the entire alleged steroids era.  This comes not so much from clairvoyance nor some kind of Einstein-like scientific insight, but rather from the observations of an individual who follows the road map of a consistent and viable life-ethic and belief system. In doing so, he has found that difficult and &#8220;unconventional&#8221; as that may seem according to pop culture, it is the best and surest way to arrive at one&#8217;s destination.  Accordingly, when watching MLB owners and Mass Media locked in a death dance of bullshit, backstabbing, and Bonds-hating, it comes as no surprise that  we end up with is a 304 page waste of paper that took over a year and millions of dollars in the making on one hand. And a straightforward essay that exposes all the fakers who contributed to this affront to one&#8217;s intelligence. </p>
<p>Not surprisingly, elitists in mass media and elsewhere, reveal themselves to be as vindictive, hateful, superstitious and small-minded as their predecessors in 17th century Salem Massachusetts.  They continue to slime Barry Bonds with hardly any of what could be reasonably passable pseudo-evidence.  No testimony against him by other than a discredited former girl friend.  Yet these same freaks  seek to exonerate and excuse Roger Clemens in spite of an abundance of the so-called pseudo evidence put forth in Mitchell&#8217;s Report.  The accusations against Bonds in this report are as mentioned previously, a  rehash of the Fanny-Wadda, Williams Fairy Tale.  </p>
<p>The report was a farce. John did a masterful job of breaking down the pieces and putting them into the context of the real picture. A morally bankrupt sports media and a vacuous, insipid greedy Commissioner.  The two have relentlessly sought to destroy the players union, discredit player agents&#8217;, and dehumanize players.  And until the day, fans understand that dynamic, they will continue to wonder why players do not for the most part, cozy up to media, fans, and the general public.  Or when they do speak, it is in bland cliches in an atmosphere of mistrust and barely tolerable antipathy.  It is an adversary relationship.  And it is going to get a lot worse. Media and the Commissioner and the scurrilous player-hating Mitchell have sought to slander ALL of the players through insinuation and out and out misrepresentation through this whole process. </p>
<p>And lost in all of it was any serious discussion of Sports Medicine which is where this all should have been focused in the first place.  Ridiculous people for ridiculous times. Fools. All of them.  How ironic that the people who slime the game are people who cannot play it.  That is the simple truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay T.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never really bought the race card angle (fully) until now.  This is fucking ridiculous -- frankly, there&#039;s MORE reason to doubt Clemens than Bonds.  Bonds is saying he took PEDs but didn&#039;t realize it, while Clemens is actually trying to make us believe he did nothing?  Even with firsthand testimony against that?  If the ESPN staff doesn&#039;t rip Clemens a new one soon, I have to assume on some level it&#039;s subconscious racism.  I mean, C&#039;MON!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never really bought the race card angle (fully) until now.  This is fucking ridiculous &#8212; frankly, there&#8217;s MORE reason to doubt Clemens than Bonds.  Bonds is saying he took PEDs but didn&#8217;t realize it, while Clemens is actually trying to make us believe he did nothing?  Even with firsthand testimony against that?  If the ESPN staff doesn&#8217;t rip Clemens a new one soon, I have to assume on some level it&#8217;s subconscious racism.  I mean, C&#8217;MON!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. List</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. List</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now what? Do you institute a strict, new anti-doping regime? Do you go after the players who Mitchell identified. At the very least, game should go on with any asterisks:

http://fourreasonswhy.com/2007/12/14/there-should-be-no-asterisks-in-baseball/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now what? Do you institute a strict, new anti-doping regime? Do you go after the players who Mitchell identified. At the very least, game should go on with any asterisks:</p>
<p><a href="http://fourreasonswhy.com/2007/12/14/there-should-be-no-asterisks-in-baseball/" rel="nofollow">http://fourreasonswhy.com/2007/12/14/there-should-be-no-asterisks-in-baseball/</a></p>
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