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		<title>By: Work at home - Paid Surveys - Surveyascout.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 01:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jay T.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 18:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s called case-load you douchebag... it&#039;s not like they&#039;re writing checks, but the goverment is spending money by allocating thousands and thousands of paid hours (both in-house and out-sourced) towards this case as opposed to something else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s called case-load you douchebag&#8230; it&#8217;s not like they&#8217;re writing checks, but the goverment is spending money by allocating thousands and thousands of paid hours (both in-house and out-sourced) towards this case as opposed to something else.</p>
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		<title>By: RUFS</title>
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		<dc:creator>RUFS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Out of my ass? That’s nice. I spoek to the guys over at Sports Law Blog, oh, I don’t know, something like a year ago. But, again, RUFS, thanks for contributing something thoughtful.&lt;/i&gt;

Oh, that was fucking convincing.  What, the prosecutors have a Tens-of-Millions-Dollars Account set aside for getting Bonds, from which they just simply draw huge sums of money, all to get Bonds?  You really should quit making stuff up, or at least make a little effort to check oput the stuff that goes into your laughable slurs against Bonds&#039;s critics and the people who are doing their jobs by bringing charges that are fully justified by the facts.  Facts, John.  What a concept.  If Bonds weren&#039;t a Giant, you wouldn&#039;t be devoting your life to constructing your air-headed &quot;arguments.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Out of my ass? That’s nice. I spoek to the guys over at Sports Law Blog, oh, I don’t know, something like a year ago. But, again, RUFS, thanks for contributing something thoughtful.</i></p>
<p>Oh, that was fucking convincing.  What, the prosecutors have a Tens-of-Millions-Dollars Account set aside for getting Bonds, from which they just simply draw huge sums of money, all to get Bonds?  You really should quit making stuff up, or at least make a little effort to check oput the stuff that goes into your laughable slurs against Bonds&#8217;s critics and the people who are doing their jobs by bringing charges that are fully justified by the facts.  Facts, John.  What a concept.  If Bonds weren&#8217;t a Giant, you wouldn&#8217;t be devoting your life to constructing your air-headed &#8220;arguments.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 01:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Out of my ass?  That&#039;s nice.  I spoek to the guys over at Sports Law Blog, oh, I don&#039;t know, something like a year ago.  But, again, RUFS, thanks for contributing something thoughtful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Out of my ass?  That&#8217;s nice.  I spoek to the guys over at Sports Law Blog, oh, I don&#8217;t know, something like a year ago.  But, again, RUFS, thanks for contributing something thoughtful.</p>
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		<title>By: RUFS</title>
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		<dc:creator>RUFS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay, that is just utter bullshit.  Do you clowns really believe one another here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay, that is just utter bullshit.  Do you clowns really believe one another here?</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 20:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>damn, wheres johnny cochran when you need him.  The man lived to get black dudes out of impossible corners. Gov&#039;t killed cochran, indict them</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>damn, wheres johnny cochran when you need him.  The man lived to get black dudes out of impossible corners. Gov&#8217;t killed cochran, indict them</p>
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		<title>By: Jay T.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 19:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not answering for John here, but pretty much any investigation of this length and profile will cost at least more than ten million dollars.  With various investigators, lawyers, etc. the hours can build up pretty quick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not answering for John here, but pretty much any investigation of this length and profile will cost at least more than ten million dollars.  With various investigators, lawyers, etc. the hours can build up pretty quick.</p>
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		<title>By: RUFS</title>
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		<dc:creator>RUFS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 18:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Li&#039;l Johnny, Legal Expert cum Accountant, where did you get your numbers saying that it cost taxpayers tens of millions of dollars just to get Bonds for perjury?  Or did you pull that completely out of your ass like you do everything else you write?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Li&#8217;l Johnny, Legal Expert cum Accountant, where did you get your numbers saying that it cost taxpayers tens of millions of dollars just to get Bonds for perjury?  Or did you pull that completely out of your ass like you do everything else you write?</p>
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		<title>By: RUFS</title>
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		<dc:creator>RUFS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 18:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, why did li&#039;l Johnny call Robert &quot;Bob&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, why did li&#8217;l Johnny call Robert &#8220;Bob&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 02:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, &lt;i&gt;Bob&lt;/i&gt; , a four-year long investigation, one that cost the state millions of dollars and diverted scores of agents, resources, and investigative energy, so that a baseball player who lied in a case where the guys they were going after were eventually convicted and sentenced to a total of less than two years of jail time sure sounds like a bunch of bullshit to me.  

So, to start with, if it was such a massive crime syndicate, why did the two main guys get such light sentences?  Oh, because they cooperated?  Well, if they cooperated, then WHY THE FUCK WOULDN&#039;T THEY JUST GIVE UP BONDS RIGHT AT THE START?

And as for the &quot;honorable&quot; actions of the prosecutors, this was a vendetta against Bonds from the start.  The entire BALCO investigation started because Novitsky, an IRS agent, thought that Bonds --who worked out at the same gym-- was an asshole, and should be brought down.  That was the start of the whole BALCO &quot;scandal.&quot;  

And as for Game of Shadows, I did read it, and it was, well, a little thin on the footnotes.  To put together such a detailed account of what someone supposedly did, one would normally expect a lot of corroborating documentation, which was apparently unavailable.  So instead, what we got was a story, a narrative that supposedly detailed what these guys think happened, based on what this guy said, based on their interpretation of this piece of paper, this &quot;log,&quot; or test result or whatever.  It&#039;s obvious that whatever you or anyone thinks of GoS, there aren&#039;t five things in it that would withstand the scrutiny of a court of law, OR THEY WOULDN&#039;T HAVE NEEDED FOUR YEARS TO INDICT HIM.

Anyway, let&#039;s talk about me being an apologist.  

You sure would love it someone defended your right not to be unfairly targeted for a small crime by a massive, fininacially unlimited investigative task force.  You ever lie on your taxes?  Imagine if you were suddenly forced to testify against yourself, knowing that your IRS agent stretched the truth at times, and also knowing that if you told the truth you could get in trouble with your boss, possibly losing your job.  And then your IRS guy was convicted of cheating taxes for himself and others, and you lied to protect yourself; and now, the government, even though they won their case against the guy they were after, decided to fuck you because they knew you lied.

You think you&#039;d appreciate it if most people were willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, and understand that maybe, just maybe, your lie was a fairly innocuous and unimportant mistake?  Or maybe you are just the kind of sanctimonious asshole who thinks everyone should live lives of martyrdom and sacrifice and perfect honesty, one in which you put Good Samaritans to shame with your unflinching perfection in every way.

I don&#039;t expect you to agree with everything I say, but let&#039;s start with this:

I don&#039;t believe the agents that work for our government should be trusted unequivocally, and neither did Thomas Jefferson and Ben Franklin or any of the guys who, you know, only wrote the fucking Constitution.  You wanna know what I think they should do?  They should be investigating corporations that are raping the general public, like say, Exxon Mobil, who just reported the single highest gross revenue and profit year of any company in the history of the world, while raising gas prices some 35% for no fucking reason at all.  Or government officials in the pockets of lobbyists.  Or our lying, stealing, criminal of a fucking president.  There&#039;s only about ten thousand things to spend that kind of money on that could be considered a public good.  Can you honestly say that indicting Bonds matters for any reason at all?

Spending tens of millions of taxpayers dollars to get Bonds because he lied in a case where they won anyway is A FUCKING CRIME.  It&#039;s not something to be congratulated for, and it&#039;s certainly not something to celebrate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, <i>Bob</i> , a four-year long investigation, one that cost the state millions of dollars and diverted scores of agents, resources, and investigative energy, so that a baseball player who lied in a case where the guys they were going after were eventually convicted and sentenced to a total of less than two years of jail time sure sounds like a bunch of bullshit to me.  </p>
<p>So, to start with, if it was such a massive crime syndicate, why did the two main guys get such light sentences?  Oh, because they cooperated?  Well, if they cooperated, then WHY THE FUCK WOULDN&#8217;T THEY JUST GIVE UP BONDS RIGHT AT THE START?</p>
<p>And as for the &#8220;honorable&#8221; actions of the prosecutors, this was a vendetta against Bonds from the start.  The entire BALCO investigation started because Novitsky, an IRS agent, thought that Bonds &#8211;who worked out at the same gym&#8211; was an asshole, and should be brought down.  That was the start of the whole BALCO &#8220;scandal.&#8221;  </p>
<p>And as for Game of Shadows, I did read it, and it was, well, a little thin on the footnotes.  To put together such a detailed account of what someone supposedly did, one would normally expect a lot of corroborating documentation, which was apparently unavailable.  So instead, what we got was a story, a narrative that supposedly detailed what these guys think happened, based on what this guy said, based on their interpretation of this piece of paper, this &#8220;log,&#8221; or test result or whatever.  It&#8217;s obvious that whatever you or anyone thinks of GoS, there aren&#8217;t five things in it that would withstand the scrutiny of a court of law, OR THEY WOULDN&#8217;T HAVE NEEDED FOUR YEARS TO INDICT HIM.</p>
<p>Anyway, let&#8217;s talk about me being an apologist.  </p>
<p>You sure would love it someone defended your right not to be unfairly targeted for a small crime by a massive, fininacially unlimited investigative task force.  You ever lie on your taxes?  Imagine if you were suddenly forced to testify against yourself, knowing that your IRS agent stretched the truth at times, and also knowing that if you told the truth you could get in trouble with your boss, possibly losing your job.  And then your IRS guy was convicted of cheating taxes for himself and others, and you lied to protect yourself; and now, the government, even though they won their case against the guy they were after, decided to fuck you because they knew you lied.</p>
<p>You think you&#8217;d appreciate it if most people were willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, and understand that maybe, just maybe, your lie was a fairly innocuous and unimportant mistake?  Or maybe you are just the kind of sanctimonious asshole who thinks everyone should live lives of martyrdom and sacrifice and perfect honesty, one in which you put Good Samaritans to shame with your unflinching perfection in every way.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t expect you to agree with everything I say, but let&#8217;s start with this:</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe the agents that work for our government should be trusted unequivocally, and neither did Thomas Jefferson and Ben Franklin or any of the guys who, you know, only wrote the fucking Constitution.  You wanna know what I think they should do?  They should be investigating corporations that are raping the general public, like say, Exxon Mobil, who just reported the single highest gross revenue and profit year of any company in the history of the world, while raising gas prices some 35% for no fucking reason at all.  Or government officials in the pockets of lobbyists.  Or our lying, stealing, criminal of a fucking president.  There&#8217;s only about ten thousand things to spend that kind of money on that could be considered a public good.  Can you honestly say that indicting Bonds matters for any reason at all?</p>
<p>Spending tens of millions of taxpayers dollars to get Bonds because he lied in a case where they won anyway is A FUCKING CRIME.  It&#8217;s not something to be congratulated for, and it&#8217;s certainly not something to celebrate.</p>
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